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Re: New type of accelerator design?
« on: December 10, 2009, 10:27:45 PM »
Many would be happy just to  get their hands on a new production of  PPC accelerators.$600 and up for old 200 Mhz  600 series PPC cards shows tyhere is demand.
 

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Re: New type of accelerator design?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2009, 04:31:58 AM »
The analogy of 1950s teenagers hot-rodding old  Ford Model T comes to mind;all these non-Commodore accelerators change the machine in ways never  part of the original.What we may end up with is a higher performance machine that has little  in common with the original.If one replaces the engine(cpu),the transmission(bus board),the wheels and tires(graphics card),the steering wheel,gearshift,and pedals(new usb mouse,keyboard,the gas tank,(memory),the seats and dashboard(display and GUI),neither machine is really a Ford(Amiga).
Both were popular machines  and both are limited and considered  rightfully obsolete today!
 Both are nice hobby machines to be rolled out at shows and  quiet  weekend s,neither is ready for any superhighway.
If one wants a high performance machine for today AND insists on being "true" to the original then  a new Mustang(SAM 440) is probably a better way to spend money.
 Not so incidentally,I  plan on thinning the herd here soon -have 15 or 20 Amigas and rarely use ANY of them anymore.Maybe I can raise enough funds for a SAM.
 

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Re: New type of accelerator design?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 03:55:56 PM »
Exactly WHAT made  an AMIGA special ?

 I submit it was a combination of the OS and the custom chips for sound and video.And I submit the world-wide switch to digital video and audio makes those special Amiga chips  advantages irrelevant now.

 The Amiga OS can be rewritten to run on commodity hardware.It was done already with Amithlon,it can be done again.Amiga Forever  on modern PCs outruns original Amigas as well.

 It is silly of purists to reject Amiga OS x86  as not true Amiga because TRUE Amiga means maximim of 68060 cpu,16 meg RAM,etc. just as sold by Commodore,Escom,Quikpak .(A case can be made that PPC accelerator cards are in the spirit of the original Amiga.)How many insist Apple computers sold  since Apple's change of cpu are not truly  Apples?Would Commodore have switched cpu families ?

  Is not Amiga OS THE single defining difference now ?So it would be nice if Amiga OS would run on all widely available platforms,by which I mean x86,PPC , and whatever is in  super smartphones.I believe this is what Amiga,Inc. had as their vision but lacked the resources to do it.
 

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Re: New type of accelerator design?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 03:06:57 PM »
Kind of like the  accelerator cards for my old Mac IIci ,etc.?

Leave everything original but the cpu and supercharge that?

Do they custom chips really calculate much or do they just display the data  presented by the cpu?

Don't some late programs require a 68030,web browsers?

I remember a rare but commercial 50 mhz 040 for the 400 and pretty sure there was a 80 mhz 040 for Apples.

a 200 mhz 680x0 would be awesome!
 

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Re: New type of accelerator design?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 06:46:46 PM »
I think the only "legitimate" upgrades would be those  that provides a super-speed 68K cpu ,additional ram to the  limits of Amiga OS 3.x(perhaps 4.0 classic?),scandoubler/flickerfixer,and peripheral devices through usb and ethernet.

Once we no longer use the custom chipsets and their special features I believe it is no long an "Amiga",but rather "Amiga-like".

If the upgraded system can't use the software originally sold for Amiga then it must of necessity be considered something else,perhaps AmigaNG(new generation).

Still a 300 MHz 68030  might be fun!