truthfully, i have no problem with a dicent programmer safe guarding his his product from piracy! We dont have a huge array of programmers who continue to strive to get our platform into the 21century to begin with and secondly, most are not paid what the software is worth. If I had a break through program which performed as those on pc's (lets say internet phone since that isn't on the amiga yet.... i think) then i have no problem making it shareware to keep our system going, but be honest, don't include it,change, or modify it then pass it as your own in a soft or hardware package, without my consent! Especially if your were a large cooperation