I still hear from him from time to time through normal Email. He really got disgusted over what was said about him in that thread. He has asked me if I was interested in buying his amiga business if that shows you how serious he is. He has also talked of starting his own site with much tighter control of the membership. If people remember the thread that started all the trouble I tried to calm things down and was quickly called a "Fanboy". There were 3 people leading the charge against ReDrum and they know who they are. One of them is still on here all the time acting like a normal member but the people who read the thread know what we have to thank him and his two buddies for. Dan