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Best LCD choices for that proper AMI monitor feel in 2009.
« on: October 06, 2009, 05:08:37 PM »
I was just wondering about present monitor strategies my dear fellow Amiga users presently exercise in their  homes.

My usual route (1200/2000/4000/CDTV) 1084s wit spare backups for service parts and flickerfixer/Scandoubler with Nec safe shelter of MultySync 15" and 17" for A12000/4000.

Lately I’m building a new setup table for weekend  demonstrations for friends and personal joy. This would include  A2000/1200/CD32 but also ZX/C64/ combinations. I really hate to go with 1084 story here again. So LCD is simply a must. This made me open this topic and grasp some news from your own LCD setups. Mind you for that monitor atmosphere I don’t want to path big screen extravaganza.. 22" LCD TV is the limit in size that I consider tasteful for my application.

Now please do tell; what lurks in your setups with similar aspirations? What is at the moment "hot" choice among TV LCDs? I remember Samsung use to have model or two that was so happy with old Amiga resolutions  even without any additional help! These days, omit the raw specs, one would have a hard time to fetch such data while reading product specifications from manufacturer site.

This is where Amiga users come to rescue :)
 

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Re: Best LCD choices for that proper AMI monitor feel in 2009.
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2009, 04:35:28 PM »
I really appreciate any response and really sad to see such poor interest on this topic.

If anyone would benefit my findings, at least I should share that I’ve purchased M227WD and works great with A2000/1200 that I only had time to test.
 

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Re: Best LCD choices for that proper AMI monitor feel in 2009.
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 03:11:56 AM »
Now that's more like it !

It took only one waking post to amount this fine data?  Well, I should do this more other then :) Glad to read your posts and your latest setup/findings.

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Here's a little video of my Amiga LCD solution - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaz6fNpHYIg


Cammy,

First of all let me salute your presence and newfound Amiga renaissance you present in your video. In times of tech declaration rather then substance or real innovations, I love to see someone your age travels this passion with the same aplomb nostalgia would drive most of us here. You also remind me how Nathan was surely very busy this month!  The latest shipment is out of stock (RGB to PAL/NTSC adapter) and again ordered two of them this month. Precisely for this application.

Ideally I would consider TN screen as heresy on my desk. I work strictly with S-IPS and truly allergic to TN brotherhood. Amiga  truly deserves such treatment but since this is a pleasuredome zone, I just don’t see much point. So I wanted something TN latest at least with those traditional benefits of fine response and somewhat refined color with present TN standards.

I’m very happy, looks very good indeed. Just made a note to make some photos to show you here.
 

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Re: Best LCD choices for that proper AMI monitor feel in 2009.
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 10:13:07 PM »
Quote from: Damion;525756
My little 15" TN panel is great for OCS/ECS gaming, and for 1024x768 output from Amiga gfx cards. (BTW - for an old card, the Picasso IV has *outstanding* analog output quality - hardly distinguishable from a digital connection.) On the downside, there is obvious color loss with some AGA things, when next to a CRT or PVA LCD... don't know if modern TN panels are still 6 bits per color though.


As I’m sure you already understand the nature of TN screens : economy while being the most competitively priced. With such prospect TN has no aspiration being color precise and since earliest adoption traded depth for his biggest guns named Speed. Making them fastest players in that department. We all know primary fields where this virtues shines. That leaves us with many strategies which really have over the years made TNs much better then previous TN findings. Dithering + the usual strategies to declare them as 8-bit. Nothing critical color work would employ with any serious consideration, nevertheless, for many desktop users, very eye pleasing depending on its implementation and panel quality. In other words, camouflaged 6-bit screens as 8-bit are not that bad for their primary purpose. There is just no need for them to compete above their color league. Now that more economical  ways for S-PVA (C-PVA)  and E-ips (S-IPS/H-IPS) already available with models from Samsung, Dell and others to come…. You get the picture.

Quote from: Cammy;525832
Luckily the LCD TV I use has a built-in flicker fixer, so there's no need for DblNTSC/PAL/Multiscan resolutions anymore. It's almost as good as having an IndivisionAGA, but a lot cheaper.


Cammy that monitor of yours truly intrigues me. I like to pride myself being well informed in this department , yet shamefully I must confess that I’ve never heard of this model. Never heard of this brand to be more precise. Samsung provided his late 710 mp and 510 mp derivatives to some Asian makers, perhaps most of the logic is found in your monitor as well. I doubt it would be feasible from them to employ this left on their own devices entirely. Could you please for sake of my curiosity provide precise brand name and the very exact model number and don’t omit revision specification, provided one is available on your sticker. Tried to search form the data you provided on your youtube video, but alas, I couldn’t find any relevant or useful information. Also, could you estimate your purchase date?

Thank you

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@McFly
 Well put!


Kind of you to say so AmigaPixel :)
 

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Re: Best LCD choices for that proper AMI monitor feel in 2009.
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2009, 05:52:10 PM »
Quote from: tone007;525906
I've got one of these: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=2001FP-R&cpc=SUGG that flicker fixes on composite/s-video.
Better than nothing, but not as good as Indivision/2320.


There is certainly nothing "better then nothing" shabby about your Dell. Still S-IPS (LM201U04) that only requires some help of proper calibration as with most of the Dell monitors. Don’t  loose it with your later wide visitors. That aspect ratio will always be very handy and most useful in many fields of creative work. If you can’t borrow some calibrator from your friends, dedicate a small visit to this site.

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I wasn't very successful in finding more info on the 19" MXT LCD1904HDD either.


Previous (almost) equivalent of Cammie’s model but as CRT is MXT MTV140D

Referent design originates from Philips but found in previous Siemens and other EU names as well. Interesting, Will look into this at later date to obtain more information about MXT name.


Quote from: Cammy;526034
It was purchased about six months ago from Coles or Woolworths (some Australian food supermarket) during some special deal, for $299AU. My friend's mum bought it for her caravan, since it's an all-in-one DVD/TV/Monitor sollution, and it's also 12v compatible for running off a car battery. Since she never goes on holidays though, I asked if I could borrow it just for a few days to test it out, and that was a couple of months ago (ssshhh). I dread the day I have to give it back, because I haven't found anything as awesome as this screen anywhere since.


By now, I think it is safe to say this monitor will not leave your Amiga premises for sure :)


Quote from: Cammy;526034
It's from China, like nearly everything sold in Australia, so maybe that's where we need to look.


Don't be like that Cammy,

From finer side of manufacturing bliss, your land still offers uncompromised results from great pioneers in their own fields :

S&S , F , Dun ,KM just to name a few.
 

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Re: Best LCD choices for that proper AMI monitor feel in 2009.
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2009, 07:23:26 PM »
Quote from: tone007;526104
Oh, no, the monitor itself is great, I'm a big fan of 4:3 flatscreens, I don't own a single 16:9 that isn't on a laptop.  The "better than nothing" aspect is the flickerfixer for composite/svideo, mostly because those signals aren't nearly as sharp as VGA, but it's nice on my 1200T (which doesn't have an Indivision.)

I guess this also depends upon the size of complete available desktop tapestry. Above 20" I tend to be less nitpicking with wide. But still keep in my present PC setup at least one 5:4 candidate :)

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