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Hello. My name is Ryan.
« on: August 06, 2006, 08:22:18 AM »
Hello, my name is Ryan. (As the title says).

I have joined this forum for a few reasons, but mainly one.

Years ago, when I was six or seven, my dad brought home an Amiga A1000 that he bought for me. Upon startup, it asked for a Kickstart disk, which we couldn't find one at any computer store within a 50-mile radius. Still, this computer intrigued me. Not even a week later, The Amiga was gone. I wasn't happy, as it was my first mouse-driven computer, and I had been using an Apple II since soon before I learned to walk. I knew that no disk we had would boot it, but yeah..that didn't matter. I still wish I had it. Nowadays I'd be able to actually use it, now that I know where to find the disks. But that's besides the point. Now, I've used emulation quite a bit, and have become pretty familiar with what an Amiga is like. I would really like to see a new Amiga enter the market, but by the looks of it, those who have the power to do this, make little to no effort. One day (after smoking quite a large amount of "tobacco"), everything came to me. A way to introduce a new Amiga onto the market, and actually have it catch on in the mainstream.  So in my mind, I have a "concept" of a new Amiga system. And I don't mean stuff like Pegasos or AmigaOne. I mean an entirely new system, which I have not heard of anyone mentioning anything near what I have come up with. I joined this forum to discuss this idea of mine, and at the worst, it stays just an idea, and most likely I believe that is all it will be. I'm not the authority on all things computer related, such as hardware design and programming, but I have come up with my concept. Anyways, enough about this. I'll make a post explaining my concept when I can comfortably put it into words.
 

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Re: Hello. My name is Ryan.
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 01:17:00 AM »
First off, no my family name is not Czerwinski. (I don't know what the significance is in that). I just came here to put up some ideas, that's it. As for Hyperion, I'm not entirely sure that they would be of much help concerning this. Anyways, here  is some of what I have to say.

From my perspective, in its prime, the Amiga was known for being the best computer to use for multimedia production, and games. Today, looking at current "Amiga" projects..I don't see either of those uses put much as a priority. Let's look here for example... To get on an Amiga of some sort.today's options involve the following...

1. Laying down a good chunk of change to track down an old A1200 or A4000, a PPC upgrade board for it, both are quite sluggish by todays's standards, and hunt down a copy of AmigaOS 3.9. In a nutshell, go through a hassle and pay more for a computer and even upgrade parts that were obsolete almost ten years ago.

2. Laying down an even larger chunk of change to get an AmigaOne or Pegasos motherboard, along with MorphOS or AmigaOS4, Which doesn't REALLY have much to use for multimedia production or gaming purposes. Or, in a nutshell...Paying around $700 or more for a system in which hardware specs were obsolete around four years ago. I wanted a Pegasos II, but I just couldn't fork that much out for something that old.

What is really needed, is a complete system, that you can just pull it out of the box, plug it in, and do your thing. Like the Amigas of old back in their day. What else is needed are the groundbreaking capabilites that the Amiga had way back when. We need something that outshines anything else you would ever consider for multimedia production, as well as gaming. It seems to me that the Amiga's focus has been lost over the years. Also, what could definetely help, is a new OS. I don't mean AmigaOS 3.9 or 4 or morphOS, or anything like that. I mean starting off from scratch. Something with a familiar interface of course, but that's it. And why not make it something that a Windows or Mac user would see and wish "Wow, I wish i had that." I've come up with further ideas for that too.

That is what I will tell you for now. There is much more, but I thought I'd give you a small taste of what I was cooking up.
 

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Re: Hello. My name is Ryan.
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2006, 02:09:40 AM »
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Lando wrote:
So, erm... your idea is to make something better than what is currently available?

Ok, so go away and do it.  

Go off and design and produce the new hardware that is as groundbreaking as the Amiga was in '85, and then write the new OS from scratch that will make Mac and Windows users say 'Wow'.  Oh, and you could write the Multimedia production software you were talking about too, since until your new computer has sold tens of millions of units, nobody else is going to be bothered to write it for you.

Of course by the time you've done all that (a conservative estimate would be 10 years, assuming you have a kick-ass development team and several hundred million dollars to spend on R&D before you even see 1 cent in revenue), the Mac and Windows machines/OS's are several generations down the line and make your new wonder machine look like a Commodore PET.

But at least then you can come back and tell us about it.  Until then, your 'idea' is nothing.  Sorry, but every man and his dog has 'ideas', it's implementing them that takes skill and vision.


Everything starts with a dream. Tell me what YOU have done to brighten the future for the Amiga?

I've already begun work on the OS. A large amount of work on the new OS has already been done. It's nowhere near complete, but it's nowhere near "nothing". As for a lot of the hardware, there is some currently-existing technology out there that can be utilised in new ways. Hardware production will be the biggest struggle.

If you ever have a dream about doing something great, remind me to piss all over it, in the same fashion you have.
 

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Re: Hello. My name is Ryan.
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2006, 02:36:43 AM »
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@tec68000

I think if we could modernize the OS (much like Apple did) then the possibility of revitalizing the platform is very good.  I do think that the "retro" side will remain the retro side, but it would not hurt to have a good UNIX based modern version of AmigaOS that would run on modern hardware!

Too bad none of us has the rights to the software :-(


A UNIX-like foundation is one thing I had in mind, and is one thing I have been working on. However, what needs to be done next is the composition of something a bit more sophisticated than X11. The hardware is going to be the real kicker though...(let's just say, some people wouldn't even call it a computer)...Although, to look from a different point of view, what I really have in mind...well PM me and I'll tell you more.

By the way, software rights shouldn't be an issue.
 

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Re: Hello. My name is Ryan.
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2006, 04:01:50 AM »
Okay, maybe it will make things easier to swallow for some people if I tell you this..

What I've come up with has very little to do with an actual Amiga of any sort. In short, it's not even an Amiga. Think of it as more Amiga-inspired...but then again, you could also say that it's just as inspired by an Atari ST as well.

So no, I'm not trying to really make a new Amiga. So far, I'm in the beginning stages of piecing together an OS, for something SIMILAR in purpose to what an Amiga was back in the late eighties. Yeah, it would be cool to call it an Amiga, but who really cares what it's called. I have no interest in using a single piece of hardware, or a single line of program code you would find in any incarnation of Amiga. A similar interface, and perhaps the porting of UAE would be the most that it would ever have to do with an Amiga. It would not be Amiga compatible in any way, shape, or form. At the very least, it will all just end up being an advanced UNIX-based operating system that caters to those familiar with an Amiga, but underneath the GUI, it's 100% UNIX.