Should we really crack IBrowse 2.4???

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ADMINS: I know this post is a provocation, but please read the full post, before deleting it...

Hello Amiga-Community,

now we have the same situation like with MiamiDX. On the one side we have a very, very good product, on the other side the programmers are no more interested in selling it. :-(

Now it is more than 1 year gone and it is still not possible to buy IBrowse 2.4 anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am writing this post because in my german amiga-forum more than 30 users are willing to buy it, but no reaction from the programmers.

Andreas Magerl (AmigaFuture) and many other people tried to get in touch with the IBrowse programmers, to sell IBrowse 2.4 again with no result :-(

I am really asking me whats going on in the brain from the programmers? There are so many people willing to buy this product without any possibility.

That is the reason why I asked this provocation question about cracking IBrowse 2.4. It seems they are no more interested in a legal product.

Maybe someone from the IBrowse team can comment this? Why are you not answering the emails? Why are you no more interested to sell IBrowse 2.4?


 

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And if they are no more interested in selling their product, why they do not release a key for the community! :-(

If someone from the IBrowse team is reading, please contact me, I will buy many keyfiles for my community in germany!!!

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This is more a provocation than a real intensions!

But how long can we patient? Writing emails and getting no answer? At the moment you can sell it to the community, they still want to buy 2.4 for 68k. But waiting one or two years more make this impossible...

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futaura wrote:
In my view, this is a completely different situation to Miami(Dx).

Not really, we have a very good product, the people want to buy and the programming team say: NO WE DO NOT WANT TO SELL IT!!! :-(

It is a real strange situation, because normally the authors are complaining that they are selling not enought AMIGA VERSIONS. The people in my forum are now waiting since OVER 1 YEAR and my problem ist, that my forum is only running perfectly with IBrowse 2.4 (in 2.3 are some bugs).

And, IIRC, he was handling his own registrations so it was his choice to stop.

But the Ibrowse team got many offers and are doing nothing since over 1 year!!! Andreas Magerl / AmigaFuture is distributing many, many Amigasoftware and Amigabooks and everyone is happy. I do not know what you really want?

Even I can sell IBrowse!!! My programmer made the offer to generate a nice german / english homepage, with own domain, making the full registration. But even this offer was unanswered.

And YES, we are writing still friendly emails! Opening this thread was the first unfriedly thing that I have done to get in touch with someone, to help the community, to clear the situation, or to make a own keyfile generator.
 

On the flipside, Amiga users have had years to buy IBrowse 2.x, so I don't think all the blame can be pushed in our direction.

STOP!!! In my german amiga community are very much people that came back in 2004/2005 when I start my forum! With my contacts I found many "new" users and many hardware developers (see the phoenix II). All this people never had the chance to buy IBrowse in the past.

The sticking point is that Stefan has been very busy lately and not involved much in IBrowse, and it is he who needs to sort out the distribution stuff.

Everyone is busy, I also have a girlfriend, a job and have to travel very much, but I still take care to solve my important problems. If Ibrowse 2.4 is no more important for Stefan, he can release a keyfile for the community.

Can you please help me to get about 30 registered legal keyfiles?
I will pay using paypal, give to you all the data needed from the users and you will send me the keyfiles? Is this possible? Or not?

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These people are doing this for nothing, in their own precious free time (yes, we all have a life away from the Amiga), on top of having full time jobs.

You are right, they are doing this for nothing!!! The people can not buy it and the programmers do not want to earn money.

What what the last price for the download version?
50 Euros x 30 registrations = 1500 Euros, and they do not want to have this money?? Really strange, I think generating 30 keyfiles will not take too long...

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kreciu wrote:

Can you please help me to get about 30 registered legal keyfiles?
I will pay using paypal, give to you all the data needed from the users and you will send me the keyfiles? Is this possible? Or not?

Exactly, why you need a "distributor" for your own keys? Why pay someone for sending keys?

I REALLY don't understand that.

Kreciu

What do you not understand? I have my own amigaforum and it is one of the biggest in germany. Many users in my forum complain and complain about the IBrowse situation and now I try to help them. I care for my users.

And if the Ibrowse team is so busy, 1 contact person for this deal should be enough.
 
 

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This is the link to the original phoenix-project: http://phoenix.a1k.org

The phoenix 2 project is a totally new phoenix based on the same size from the original one, but with 030, IDE, fastram and so on onboard...

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8947
http://www.gb97816.homepage.t-online.de/

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persia wrote:
Really truely you have to cut Amiga developers a fair amount of slack.  A highly successful Amiga product will sell what, a few hundred copies?

Do you read the whole thread? They could sell many copies more, but it seems they do not want. About 30 keys only in my forum, I think there are many other users that would buy IBrowse 2.4, but it is no more avaible! :-(

Only maybe 2 hours or less for making some keys, that are 750€ per hour...

Lovely IBrowse Team, please contact me, thank you!

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It is a shame, until now no feedback again...

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@fautura
You will say no more to this topic? But you will help me to get about 30 keys for my community, or not?

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amigarules2k wrote:
Hmm, or I'll just google for 5 secs and use a pirated key. Seems to me that this is what you want the users to do.

There is already a cracked key avaible? Can I buy this one?  :-D  :-D  :-D

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swift240 wrote:
I fully understand the inpatience here, but hey its the Amiga and its no longer the top dog so letts all take a bit of a breath here.

Impatient? Sorry, but I waited now 1 year!!!!!!!!!! How long have I to wait because it is amiga? 2, 3 years???

Yes a keycrack is an idea or some sort of legal key from them.  BUT is it realy the way to go?

Seems so, they are not interested in selling about 30 legal keyfiles to my amiga users. They are not interested to earn 1500 Euros. They are not answering emails.

Regarding the 3.0 development: When will it be ready, in 2016? The users want NOW a fully working 2.4 version and if the IBrowse team is not interested in selling legal keys, they may have to live with a cracked version or a keygen.

This really a unique situation! I think this is the first time in history that people are asking for a legal version BEFORE cracking it.  :-D  :-D  :-D  

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Until NOW no feedback from fautura, no feedback from anyone in the IBrowse team!!!  :angry:  :evil:  :madashell:

It really seems that they are not able or interested to make this deal with 30 keys for germany with me...

This is really nice, ignoring the community until it is dead... starting complaining if a keygen will be avaible.

I really do not understand you!!!

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@fautura
YES, I am a registered user of your datatypes and also of IBrowse 2.4! But regarding IB2.4, there are so many users that never had the chance to buy it... (it was avaible onyl 4 month!!!)

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I looked at your website a1k.org
It's pretty slick.  It's also very clear that your users are not anything like the typical Amiga users here.  I see your users are actively hacking together new hardware and banning together to complete grassroots projects.  None of that happens anywhere else.

Thank you! Our community was founden at the end of 2004 with the phoenix project. I was able to bring the nice side of amiga back to many users, users that have no frusted storys in the past (AInc/MOS/OS4 and other flamewars). ;-)

A "normal" Amiga user is a sad and slow moving animal that would rather lament for years and years about the state of things.

Then we are really no normal amiga users, but we are many! :-)