natami

[AJCopland]

I see so thomas was largely working alone all along in terms of hardware at least.Thomas might actually get the natami finished in private a bit quicker fingers crossed.

Yes, it's been quite frustrating for a lot of the people who joined up to help because they joined up thinking they would be allowed to progress the SAGA and maybe even the design if they were able. Instead it's gone on logos and some simple test programs.

What it meant is that the 3D Core that was talked about a lot got a lot of unnecessary attention, but it only got hat because it was the only part that anyone else could do anything with!!! Never even seen the code (AHDL) for the rest of the system. Then the soft 68k came along and that got a lot of attention for the same reason.

In truth it's quite simple, Thomas announced the project because he'd been working on it for a while already when Dennis announced the MiniMig, then Jens started talking about Clone-A and so Thomas decided it was time he spoke up about his project. Like I say though, no-one has ever gotten to work on either the hardware or the AHDL (fpga) designs, we've always been kept at arms length.

It's quite frustrating and not at all what I expected when I joined up to help out with the 3D stuff. I rarely even post there anymore

Andy

[AJCopland]

@vxm
3DCore was shelved some time ago, there's a design, Gunnar even has an existing CPLD/FPGA version he did some time ago that could be used - but it's not the focus for Natami.

SAGA - I'm not personally sure, but the OCS/ECS/AGA implementation was looking good and already a lot faster in some ways than the original thanks to memory access, faster bus etc. It just needs a lot of tweaking. There's also the lesser discussed audio improvements but again I can't tell.

What is real is that there are several revision of the Natami boards with a real 68060 out there in peoples hands. 7 at the last count, who were trying to implement drivers for the network, usb, etc components. All essential stuff that needs doing to make it live upto it's promises.

Everyone, especially here sadly, goes on about the FPGA core and how the rest of the team is useless or unhelpful etc, but those things won't write themselves and the volunteers doing things are doing the best with what access they're given.

Andy

[AJCopland]

The Natami project is started since a very long time now and the progress is very slow : are you sure that Thomas (or the whole Team) don't have ennemies who block you ?

No, it's just that it's slow and difficult for one man to do, and it is all one man (Thomas) who also has a real life and a new job lately.