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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2012, 03:31:40 PM »
The guy still hasn't replied back with the photos I asked for.
By the time he has, I'll let you all know.

BTW: This guy seems to have a 1260 with 040 CPU, as well.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36906

Is it true that it will need a new socket, btw? The seller told me I'd need a 060 specific socket (but never even mentioned voltage regulators)?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2012, 03:41:12 PM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;719040
040s were 5v and 060 was 3.3v.  They each have a different socket.


Thanks.

I've been offered a 060 socket now.

10 euros (9 if I take two) + 4 euros shipping.

Does that sound fair?

Furthermore, I've already sourced a 060 CPU. Unfortunately, it's the old 50 MHz variant that doesn't clock as high as the later revisions or the LC/EC deriatives.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2012, 03:44:06 PM »
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WTF ?!? What does this mean ?
How is helping people who ask for help with electronics illegal ?


Some people just don't take kindly to people accepting donations for their work (ironically, the same people seldom oppose to illegal immigration, even though that's a far bigger issue).

It very much sucks.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2012, 04:02:59 PM »
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But, but, butbutbut...
I don't know what to say. I'm stumped really.
I'd like to meet those guys who reported him. In a dark alley...


I would gladly join you.
What a bunch of morons.

Probably don't even know that moonlighters are the backbone of the European economy.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2012, 06:05:58 PM »
Silly question, but why do people even care?

If it has neither an FPU nor MMU, is it even a valid option?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2012, 06:32:18 PM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;719074
Loads of Amigas do not have FPU or MMU.  Are they valid options?
Is A500 invalid?  Is A1200 invalid?  What all the zilions of 030 accelerators that have no FPU?

I need an MMU because I am a developer but lots of ppl specifically do not want an MMU.  The 060 FPU is awesome but I could live without it.  But I really need my MMU. :knuddel:


True.

I think I'd very much miss the feel of completeness though.
Buying a 060 sans MMU/FPU definitely isn't an option for me.

Well. Perhaps one without the FPU, since it isn't even that good compared to the one on an Intel Pentium, but the MMU is kind of mandatory.

BTW: What do you program your games in? I'm very much interested in trying out GameSmith ASM. Is there anything similar to this but with 060 support?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2012, 07:29:04 PM »
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What does this mean?

Moonlighting? It's the practice of working without paying any taxes to the government.

It's what he told me. Three Frenchmen had him reported for that.


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I stopped Amiga repair : three french amigamem here want me big troubles (was a black job)

Sorry,


A+++

I think he's German, as "Blackjob" isn't really an English term but Germans use it all the time ("Schwarzarbeit" = Moonlighting)

@ChaosLord

Is that an abbreviation of some sorts? Can't find anything to the extent of Amiga JC or JC ASM or even Amiga JC Library.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2012, 08:55:57 PM »
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Ah.  Well, not many governments like you doing work without paying your protection money.  What kind of lamer reports someone for it?


Well. Some people just have really screwed moral standards.

When I was grocery shopping today, I saw a foreign lady stealing stuff in the public. They all just looked into the other direction and when I reported her to the cashier, that fellow behind me had the indecency of calling me out on it*

I really don't want to have to spill it out, but the term by which those kind of people** go starts with an "l" and ends in "efty" ;)

*Quote: "Way to go! Thanks to you, that lady may have to go to bed hungry"

**According to my own personal observations, those really are the same people who would willingly report others for moonlighting and the likes. Doesn't really make sense, but neither do they.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2012, 10:41:01 PM »
Pics are in.




(Is it just me, or does the upper right half look like something went up in smoke before?)





To buy or not to buy?


EDIT: Just realized this is a Phase5, so it will only accept single-sided SIMMs.
Is there any way to change this behaviour (some sort of mod)?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2012, 11:24:04 PM »
It's 265 + shipping.

Kinda bugs me that it only accepts 64MB though. 192MB with the optional SCSI board (which, as everything, will probably be hard to find. Right?)

Makes me wonder though. Is the 64MB a physical limitation (i. e. single-sided 128MB sticks were less common back then, so Phase5 labelled it as max.64MB) or a logical (i. e. even I could fit in a 128MB module, it will only show up as 64MB or not at all)?

I'm not sure it would make sense to buy it if won't be able to upgrade it to 128MB. Could as well buy an Apollo then.


EDIT: Just had a more thorough look at the photo and it appears he installed a double sided SIMM.
Is this guy screwing with me?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2012, 12:07:16 AM »
@Iggy

I'm actually more concerned with that diode thingy a fair bit more to the right

See here:




PS: While I definitely like the idea of having hardware that is customizable to some extent, I still have large issues dealing with all the information.

Saw an older thread on EAB in which a few people said Phase5 Blizzard 1260s would recognize 128MB SIMMs, if one can find one that is slim enough. Is that true?

If I could fit in larger RAM by either finding really slim SIMMs or replacing the socket with a flat one, I would be ok with that.

Lastly, are there any Amiga hardware geeks in southern Germany or Switzerland (near Zurich)? If I end up buying this card, I'll need help modifying and installing it. I burned my hands half a dozen of times this year, which should tell you plenty enough of my lackluster soldering skills.

If someone wants to spend a short vacation here (in case there are no local Amiga geeks), I'd also be more than willing to provide for food, accommodation and leisure.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2012, 12:23:39 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;719129
Its a capacitor and it looks like it might have leaked.


Urgh.

So no buy then?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2012, 01:03:23 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;719139
See if he's willing to warrant that it works and is willing to accept payment through Paypal.
Otherwise, pass.


Done.


Shame there's no one creating new 1260 accelerators. Life could be so much easier.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2012, 01:29:42 AM »
Ok.

So let's see

The card is fine after all.
I can upgrade it to 128MB, assuming I can find RAM that is slim enough
It can be upgraded to a 060, although I'll need to buy (a) buy a socket and CPU and (b) find someone to solder/desolder some parts.
265 + shipping isn't too princely a sum.

A good buy then?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2012, 09:58:43 AM »
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Can u name a single piece of software that makes such an assumption?

I have never met a program that did such a thing.

I don't think anyone assumed that except you.

Tons of ppl used LC and EC parts and I never heard of them not working.


Supposedly, Quake will not work without a fully functional FPU. Can anyone confirm this?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 15, 2012, 05:04:05 PM »
The first five revisions are far from rare, are they?

Talked to a distributor today and they still had eighty 50MHz CPUs with MMU and FPU in stock.

Guy warned me not to use these without dedicated cooling though. At least not when I'm overclocking them to 66MHz.

I was also looking around for inexpensive 128MB sticks, but couldn't get a definite answer on whether 60ns RAM (of which I should still have a few sticks) is good enough for serious OC (as in an 80MHz 060).

As nice as 50ns sticks would be, they're kind of out of my budget.
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