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Re: New CyberGraphX v4 version available
« on: July 18, 2015, 05:35:37 PM »
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Does development on this application continue, outside of what hobbyists and enthusiasts like Cosmos push forward?  'cause 7+ years with no release sounds like abandonware, to me...


There is no such legal construct.

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I'm job less and I have no money to give, sorry...


This is a woefully facile argument, one I tire of reading over and over again.  With the number of community-funded bounties, Kickstart and IndiGoGo projects out there, not having money for a particular project is a non-starter.  In fact, repeating it every time someone criticizes your work*  seems like you are fishing for sympathy.

If Developer X wants $Y for someone to take over his or her rights to a particular product, there is no reason not to run over to Amiga.org, EAB, AA, and others to put up a post saying "Hey, I want to improve Product X, and the developer wants $Y for the rights.  If you want to see this great product supported by a great active developer, please donate here!"

If Developer X ignores you or is otherwise not open to your advances, then a public post about the issue could elicit others to step in and advise or assist.  At the very least it could open an underground of support for your project.

* To be sure, I understand your work to be heartfelt and by many accounts very good; a true labor of love.  I, for one, appreciate you are willing to tackle the problems, though I believe, as others have mentioned, a better approach exists to disseminating your work.
 

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Re: New CyberGraphX v4 version available
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2015, 03:40:17 AM »
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Stefan, for example, from multiple forum searches I've found many posts from people who've already tried to contact him.  Laugh at me all you want, but when I found this website this past May I went ahead and sent him the Paypal registration fee.  When I was a broke teenager I pirated the heck out of his software.  Now it just felt right to "make up for that", in a way, by registering.  I got no response at all, not even a "hey, thanks for the money".  Which is kind of a shame, but I'm still glad I sent it, in a "doing the right thing" kind of way.

Around the same time I registered the WarpDT datatypes and a few other Amiga software packages that I've used over the years.  Again, just trying to do the right thing.  Others did write me back, which kind of warmed my heart to know they appreciated the gesture.

Holger, on the other hand, I believe he "flipped the collective bird" to the entire Amiga community some years ago, and dropped off the map.  No longer accepting registrations or even willing to discuss his Miami software, assuming you could even track down his contact info.  Which is a damned shame, because I would gladly put money in his hands today to see that software continued to be developed.


I am in the same boat for the most part.  Although I was actually able at some point to register MUI on one computer, then I installed it on several.  Many years back I registered for a few copies of MUI but never received a key, so I use the same key on multiple machines with the knowledge that I have done right.

And I unfortunately feel the same way about Holger.  When I was broke I actually spent the money on Miami (as well as YAM, AmIRC, and AmFTP at the time -- saved up to do them all.)  I think it was a bogus update to WildIRC (the ARexx script bundle) that stole my Miami key and replaced it with a generic "Digital Corruption" key.  When I contacted Holger about it, he berated me for pirating Miami (even though I still had the email confirmation of my registration!)  Then once he went over to Rebol he pretty much gave up on all of us.  That said, I actually have not had to "pirate" Miami as between Genesis, a registered Miami Deluxe I purchased, and now Roadshow, I have all of my machines well covered for TCP/IP.

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But I guess for some people, pride is more important than money.  I don't know, just hypothesizing.


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Re: New CyberGraphX v4 version available
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2015, 04:17:46 AM »
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I think it says a lot about what remains of the "Amiga community" that instead of going over the technical aspects of what Cosmos has done you guys spend your time worrying about the moral implications of changing a few bytes in a file the original author has long since given up giving a about.

Indeed it does.  Every community, irrespective of size, is built upon the foundation of a civil society which requires a set of morals.  Without a stable set of morals the community cannot survive.

You are also making an unwarranted assumption as to the disposition of the author.