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FS: 2x Commodore 2002, 2x Amiga 1084 monitors
« on: July 26, 2012, 08:27:18 PM »
They're up for sale, now. (Jump down here)

I have four Commodore and Amiga CRT monitors in the top of my closet.  I believe I have two 2002, a 1084 and a 1084S.  When I put them up they worked, but after about seven years I'm not certain how well they work but I am certain that I will not use them again.

I figure I might be able to get about $25 for each, but shipping won't be exactly cheap as they are pretty heavy.  Normally I won't ask a question like this, but getting them prepared is going to be a good bit of time on my part and I would rather have an opinion beforehand: is it even worth bothering to get these ready and put up on eBay?
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Re: Old Commodore/Amiga CRT monitors worth the trouble?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2012, 09:35:54 PM »
I would be shipping them via FedEx as it has a much better track record with equipment I ship, less expensive, and I get airline miles.  But, yeah, I trust 'em.  The local dump is actually less than 1/2 mile from my house, so it's easy enough to just drop them off.  I was hoping to give someone a chance to own them in working condition if said someone had a real need for them.

Anymore the CRT is useless to me as I can, relatively inexpensively, purchase whatever adapters I need to connect my various equipment to LCD monitors -- S-Video for the Commodore and Atari stuff, SVGA for the TI via the F18A, DVI/HDMI on the Amigas via Indivision MKII or SVGA via SD/FF and video cards, and so on.  My two 20" LCD monitors even have composite and S-Video inputs, so no conversion necessary there.

The only thing I have not researched on connecting is the RGB-I interface on my 128/128D.  But I'm sure that's a small stretch to success.
 

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Re: Old Commodore/Amiga CRT monitors worth the trouble?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012, 07:14:38 AM »
Okay, they all work.  Two Commodore 2002 and two Amiga 1084.

One of the 1084s has been modified internally to take in two audio inputs and feed them to two outputs on the sides with a power outlet at each, as well, for a set of speakers which are no longer present.  The internal speaker does work.  This unit also appears to have a small problem with the vertical deflection as the screen is a thin horizontal line which gets larger as the unit warms up.

Being as late as it is, I of course have not yet had the opportunity to take them up to see about boxing and weighing for shipping costs.  I'll make the offer here right now and negotiate over shipping as we go on. If anyone here is interested in any or all of these, make an offer for the units alone.  I'll provide shipping and packaging costs and let you decide if they're worth it to you.  (We can also arrange for local pick up.)   PM me with your offer and email address and I'll send you a photo, as well.

If I cannot get a bite here by mid-week then I'll put them up on eBay.  If I cannot sell them there then sadly they'll have to go to recycling.
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Re: Old Commodore/Amiga CRT monitors worth the trouble?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2012, 09:44:38 PM »
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Are you in the USA? If so use Craigslist to offer then for $25 or less and they will be GONE in to time.


I don't use Craigslist, anymore, since it changed posting requirements.
 

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Re: Old Commodore/Amiga CRT monitors worth the trouble?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 05:46:59 AM »
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JUst put them out on the nature strip, or I think Americans call it the parkway, overnight and they'll be gone by morning.


That's actually funny.  I don't know why, but I have left stuff out by the street and days go by without anyone touching it.  I literally have to put signs on things saying "please take me" before someone will grab anything.  Whereas at my friends' places, anything on the street is gone before day's end.
 

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Re: Old Commodore/Amiga CRT monitors worth the trouble?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 06:25:50 AM »
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Classic Amiga games and software actually look better on a CRT monitor.
 
Because flat-panel monitors are lower quality then CRT monitors, you MUST set the resolution on a flat-panel monitor to 2 to 3 times that of a CRT monitor to get the same clear picture.  Since most Amiga software is designed for low res screens, they look terrible when viewed on a flat-panel monitor.
 
I did a test, to see for myself which was better CRT or FP monitors.  I set up two Amiga 2000 computers, one with a Viewsonic CRT monitor, and the other with a Viewsonic FP monitor.  The Amiga 2000 computer with the CRT monitor BLEW THE FRAKEN DOORS OFF of the Amiga 2000 computer with the FP monitor.  The CRT monitor had a much clearer picture, with bright, vibrant colors.  MagicWB looked great on the CRT monitor, but looked like crap on the FP monitor.  Games looked much better on the CRT monitor.  The only time that the FP monitor looked almost as good as the CRT monitor was when displaying Workbench 3.9 in 1024 by 768 resolution.  Because of this test, I will not use a FP monitor on a classic Amiga system, just on the new AmigaOne systems with Amiga OS 4.1.


To a large degree I have kept hold of the CRT monitors for the quality aspect.  I still use a CRT TV because I can't stand the blocky-ness of DVDs and streaming media on LCD and the CRT has a natural tendency to smooth that out.  In past years I understood that your standard consumer LCD (monitors, mostly) provide good-enough color reproduction with lower bit-depths per pixel than what they're being fed, and the higher bit-depth were more expensive.  Though I believe that might be changing these days.

I know that AGA through my PIV SD/FF looks a lot better on a CRT VGA monitor than an LCD VGA monitor.  None the less, I simply cannot justify the space any more to store these monitors, and they take up valuable desk real estate.  I'm hoping that someone can put them to better use.
 

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Re: Old Commodore/Amiga CRT monitors worth the trouble?
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2012, 05:15:57 PM »
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+1

And it feels good to have an 'original' system too.  So long as my CRTs are working well, I'll continue to use them.

How can you even mention bringing such a monitor to the dump??

I understand.  Considering they've lived through about five moves each and sat unused in a closet for the past seven years, I just cannot justify the storage space required to maintain them nor the desk space required to use them if I did.  There's a likelihood that I'll take them up to Goodwill instead of the dump, but there's no guarantee what happens to them at that point.  I would rather put them in the hands of someone who has an active hobby but no one here has yet to make an offer for even just shipping and packaging.