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Re: Steve Jobs passed away!
« on: October 06, 2011, 01:02:52 AM »
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He didn't die, he just upgraded or downgraded, depending on what religion you subscribe to.


Or downloaded to the Resurrection Ship.
 

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Re: Steve Jobs passed away!
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2011, 03:45:39 PM »
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In the same sentence?! :roflmao:  Yeah, I found it odd as well how much they attributed to Steve Jobs.  I wonder what they'll attribute to Bill Gates when he passes.
 

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Re: Steve Jobs passed away!
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 01:30:58 AM »
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Guys, get real. Steve didn't invent anything, Steve didn't design anything. They have designers and research department. We did not lose anything.


Actually, I've found several articles interviewing former Apple employees -- if not written by them -- which describ how if he didn't have direct control over the design process, his engineers had to figure out how to meet the demands placed on them by his designs.

IMNSHO, his real genius was in recognizing what was marketable and useful and what was not.  For instance, he snatched up a guy who wrote a graduate thesis which became the NeXT kernal, which became OSX.  And while we had sporadic and disparate places to get J2ME, Symbian, or Palm (amongst others) applications and games, there simply was nothing fully integrated and easy to use like the iTunes store.  He took devices which were decidedly complex or seemingly daunting and put them into the hands of average users, if not directly by his own designs then most certainly by his demand.

Irrespective of my disdain for Apple products in general, or my lack of compulsion to use OSX, Jobs was absolutely a great mind and brought a lot of great things to everyday people, and he deserves at least that credit.
 

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Re: Steve Jobs passed away!
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 06:21:19 AM »
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Could be seen either way, really.  Had they not, the market would have been flooded with half assed Mac clones, tarnishing the whole name. Ever buy a POS PC with Windows on it, and curse Windows daily? - then build your own system and find out it's not half bad?  I have.  Apple having the HW on lockdown with the OS seems to have served them quite well, so who knows how it would have gone if Jobs didn't can the program in the late 1990's.  It's given them a pretty much universal user experience offering, anyways.

Apple is a HW company, and I think we can all agree the prices for their systems/devices are very high.  Apple has a high artsy fartsy fanboy appeal that I think may have been diminished by a clone market.


All of this was exactly the concern with the clone market: sub-par copies giving sub-par performance and user experience.

One thing Apple has right now is uniformity.  Pretty much every piece of Apple kit is identical to another unit of the same model.  This also helps the user support experience.  Granted this isn't the culture for all of us but, as much as I hate to admit it, it works damn well.

As for Apple being a hardware company, I would say that they do quite well with software, too.  I know plenty of people who swear by iTunes, be they Mac or Windows users, and the Mac OSX looks attractive and feels comfortable.