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Re: Should we really crack IBrowse 2.4???
« on: May 08, 2009, 02:44:10 PM »
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How about HighWire, Atari CSS capable browser?
http://highwire.atari-users.net/

They could add insult to injury and show a screen shot of HighWire browsing Amiga.org...
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Re: Should we really crack IBrowse 2.4???
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 07:32:55 PM »
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Re: Should we really crack IBrowse 2.4???
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 05:12:16 PM »
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I'm sorry but how does MorphOS fix the abandoned software issue?   I have Amiga hardware that runs Amiga software, not Apple hardware that emulates Amiga hardware to run SOME Amiga software.


*sigh*  This, again.  MorphOS is an operating system.  It runs 68k code in an emulation layer just like AROS and OS4 because the actual hardware on which the OS runs is neither a 68k CPU nor real Amiga hardware (with the exception of OS4 for Classic, to which I cannot speak with any authority on how the hardware is managed other than that the 68k is never touched.)

Emulation is completely different.  Yeah, it has an Apple logo on the hardware, but the operating system makes it not-Apple.  Just the same as all of these other boards which run OS4 and the Intel CPUs which run AROS.  Emulation would be Apple hardware running Apple operating system running an Amiga 68k emulation layer.  It's an argument of semantics since that's the exactly how the other systems work.

In any case, there are a bazillion other threads in which to have this discussion.  So, I'll add to this current topic by saying, it's very easy for those who want to run IBrowse 2.4 on whatever system to find IBrowse2key if so inclined.
 

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Re: Should we really crack IBrowse 2.4???
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2012, 05:48:49 PM »
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We've all agreed that we use it, are willing to buy it, and to fully use it you need a "Key. But it is not for sale because it has been "abandoned"

So...
I wonder if, we "Should we really crack IBrowse 2.4?" Or perhaps consent to allowing unrestricted access to one of the "keys" floating on the web. If the source code was in the public domain, then issues of use and improvements would be a moot point.


I am personally on-board with a generic key being made available for IBrowse 2.4, even if that means condoning the use of one floating around -- provided this doesn't affect sales of any Amiga dealer actively selling IBrowse 2 with legitimate keys.

At the same time, I'm more apt to support the development of a new 68k browser with reasonable performance and capability which looks like is happening now (albeit slowly as done in spare time.)  That is, I'm very happy to support novacoder's efforts, as well as those upstream, though I don't have any access to Asian hookers.
 

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Re: Should we really crack IBrowse 2.4???
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 04:26:10 AM »
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Actually, there is nothing "just like AROS" about the way MorphOS runs 68k Amiga programs, and there is certainly no "emulation layer". MorphOS has a 68k to PPC JIT, but beyond that it's all native, and the Amiga programs runs happily directly on the operating system, in the same memory space as PPC compiled programs, using the same sheduler, the same resources, the same signalling system etc! :)

AROS on the other hand uses UAE which emulates Amiga HW, and every Amiga program runs inside its own emulated "sandbox".

A huge difference actually!

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And there ya go. hehehe My point, more or less, was the it is not emulation in the sense that it's accused of being.  But it definitely doesn't hurt to have this information visible.