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Re: Stop copying Starfighter.
« on: September 18, 2007, 04:46:29 AM »
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Yep, I agree.  It's still a waste of time though.


I know many people who thought that way until it happened to them.

Drew may be able to stop the eBay sales by sending proper DMCA notices.  I don't know how copyright notices work on the other side of the pond in civilization, but in the US at least it could be put to some good use.

If I see any on eBay I'll be happy to submit a copyright violation notice.
 

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Re: Stop copying Starfighter.
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2007, 02:28:18 PM »
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...I wonder just how many $millions$ those terrible pirates are making from Starfighter? :lol:


Okay, put it this way.  What if YOU bought Starfighter from one of these dealers for $20, $40, $50, whatever, and then found out that now it's free?  Regardless of when it was made free.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the $millions$ being collected by those pirating the software.  It has to everything to do with taking something that does not belong to you and the assumption of your rights to do whatever you want with it.

You are a text book pie-rat, and obviously have never produced a creative work of your own.  Otherwise I believe you would understand Drew's position.  You sound just like the uninformed masses who proclaim that Janne Suni should be thankful that Timbaland used his song in its entirety to make money without giving him any credit, because otherwise no one would ever have heard it.  This is an argument made over and over, and it is a fallacy.
 

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Re: Stop copying Starfighter.
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2007, 08:12:11 AM »
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If that is the case then the person who really should be slapped is not the pirates but infact you, for abandoning the amiga community, for removing a product you yourself created and had available for purchase from the amiga stores.

Ofcourse if you had a legally available version of your game available and still in production then I will apologise, but to me it doesn't sound like you did.

So basically people like you (or the you, you sound like) are the main reason the amiga died. They either released a product and removed it from production early, or released a product and removed support entirely so it was still filled with bugs.

That to me is more disgusting, and now your going to kick in the balls the only few amiga companies left to sell anything amiga related and scrambling for the few cents left so they can stay afloat, the people desperate for anything that would actually sell as amiga development has ground to a halt.

So I can't really cry for you, sorry.


First off, dammit, it's "you're" not "your".  "You're" is a contraction of "you are" and "your" shows ownership.  Your grammar, poor spelling, and poor arguments all serve the implication of ignorance.

Second off, this line of thought is parasitic.  There are a number (I can't use the term "plenty" unfortunately) of legitimate Amiga sources selling legitimate Amiga software and hardware.  Making a profit off the remaining Amiga supporters and enthusiasts, and newbies who don't know any better, by taking advantage of software which is either freely available or only available as illegitimate copies is a flat out crime against the community.

Once again, arguments like yours fall flat.  People like DrewFX did not kill the Amiga -- check your history, you'll find that the Amiga community was falling apart if not fallen apart already by this time, and his contribution was made to bolster the remnants.  And what of Holger Kruse, from whom we can no longer purchase registrations of one of the best TCP/IP stacks for the Amiga: does his AWOL status serve to destroy the Amiga community?  Should either still expend the resources necessary to maintain production when sales drop below maintainable levels?

Your logic says that we should feel sorry for the Chinese companies producing cheap knock-offs of the iPhone because Apple reduced the price of the genuine article.

Pooh on you and your compatriots.
 

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Re: Stop copying Starfighter.
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2007, 03:49:06 PM »
FWIW, LhA 2.12 from AmiNet (lha.run) handles both StarFighter patch archives without a problem.  I used 2.11 to extract them.

I have also repackaged them with -lh5- and also with lzx.  The files are awaiting Andy's approval for distribution.