Yup, I just banned him...

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In terms of defense, and when you wake up and realize that law abiding citizens are NOT the only ones that own guns... and never will, the utopian ideology of the left falls flat on its face. Yes, monsters do exist. Society and liberal policies in general have seen to that.  

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In the UK we have the right to free healthcare but not gun ownership.
In the USA they have the right to own guns but not healthcare.

I know which right I prefer.

Horribly twisted convolution, but LoadWB really *is* articulating it the_way_it_is.

BTW: Your own "health care" is a choice that you and you alone make. You have the freedom to chose to lead an unhealthy lifestyle: eat, drink, smoke and inject whatever you want, ignore and be ignorant of consequences, not exercise, etc., so why do you expect others to pay for your crummy lifelong habits and choices? The irresponsible way that you chose to conduct your life is and should NOT be a "right" by any stretch of the imagination, when trying to suck others into your worthlessness. Unless of course, you blame somebody other than yourself for everything that has ever gone wrong in your so-called life.

Above outline is yet another immature, selfish and entitled mentality. One that is plaguing *our* nation right now. Facts are facts. Funny how so many today are choosing to ignore them. Perhaps "healthcare" wouldn't be such an issue or thrust upon all of us, if people would get their heads out of their asses and re-learn a thing or two. Such as what to eat. How to prepare foods, etc.

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I actually enjoy weaponry, I was in the armed forces (national service in Yugoslavia) and I enjoy handling and firing handguns and rifles. That's what gun clubs are for, I don't need these things in my home.

Until someone armed (or not) and illegally enters your home and... tried to rob, rape and...

Pick up a nearby lamp and beat them to death? Baseball bat? Sorry... Cricket paddle... lmao

God given right is to be able to defend yourself. Plain and simple. Don't grasp that concept? Yeah... you're the one I feel sorry for.

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BTW the police do random checks on me to make sure i keep everything properly just in chase you people think i am some kind of psycho for owning firearms in Australia.

Wow. Random "checks"? That's exactly what Nazi's and the Gestapo did.

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Yes, I have the natural instinct and the, hmm what's the best word to use here... choice, to defend myself, i.e. Fight or flight.

Unfortunately, in Australia, if I used any of the bludgeoning weapons you mentioned, which I surely could do to much effect since I am a large semi-muscular man and I do have a putter in my study, I could end up in more trouble and doing more jail time than the assailant.

We are not to take the law into our own hands; Someone enters your home uninvited, get out and call the police from a mobile or a neighbour's phone.

You totally and utterly just made our case. It's exactly what happens when you have a liberal grubment. Say goodbye to common sense. Logic. Reasoning. Independent thought.

So you cannot "legally" protect what you've acquired, built and worked for all your life? %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! that. You call that living?

Funny choice of words here. You say 'unfortunately' in regards to Aussie law, yet you're defending an anti-gun stance. Pretty sure, no make that ABSOLUTELY sure, that most citizens if armed, would squash any adversity that arises during the times when they (those that choose to feel dis-enfranshised) choose to act in a less than civilized way in order to get what they want.

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Simple equation. Stop people having unneccessary guns, there's less people using them.

Wrong.

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...LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!!   !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !!  !

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I'm sorry but i still don't understand why you need guns in the first place :confused:

They are completely unneccessary in suburbia. If America really does need guns in suburbia then it must be a really screwed up country.

Yes, America *has* turned into a screwed up country, but not for the reasons we're discussing here (gun ownership). Lots of flawed ideologies, where do-gooders thrust their values onto everyone else with a 'one size fits all' mentality. Completely ignoring facts, changing facts to suit their vision of utopia or completely rewriting history in order to further the agenda.

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Wow, gotta love modern "computing". The picking and choosing that is A.org. A three paragraph rebuke in line #129 - poof!

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Your response is actually typical. I have had this reaction from several  American gunlovers. They get hot tempered and aggressive when you fail  to share their opinion on why guns are OK. This is part of the reason  guns and America scare the crap out of me.

In my entire life i  have never felt the need or desire to own a gun. Any threatening  situation i have ever been in or can imagine being in i have been able  to resolve effectively without the use of a gun. I am now going to go  into a gun shop and buy a gun so i can "defend myself". Can someone  explain this logic to me because i am really confused.

Waaaaaaaaaay too much time wasted here, but Kesa... in order to satisfy your confused state - try living here for a while. And NOT as a worthless piece of %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! with nothing to lose. Try as you might, in getting "ahead"... only to have it all taken away in a moments flash, thanks to criminals or worse.