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Re: Some Amiga 2000 Newbie Questions
« on: July 27, 2009, 01:16:59 AM »
I believe that lengthy AMax box you've got not only houses the Mac ROMS, but also provides a way to hook a Mac drive up to it. You'll still need to boot the AMax software and then Mac OS. 6.02 was popularly used with that setup.

Going down your list:

1) Old Amiga 2000's routinely have weakened power supplies at this stage of the game. Not a bad idea to replace the capacitors in them or hack your way to outfitting a PeeCee power supply for it.

2) Open up your Amiga 2000 motherboard... you'll see its revision clearly labelled in
the rear and near the video port. Look for more than just a letter. Yours might be a rev. 4 since you mentioned the old AMax box.

3) If possible, download and install Sysinfo from Aminet.net to learn about your
Kickstart revision if you don't want to poke around too much. The Kickstart chip is
under the drive plane and that requires you to remove 4 screws in the rear (power
supply) and three screws in the front. Also, without a HD plugged in - you'll see a hand
prompting you to insert a Workbench disk. The version of OS will be clearly visible. I
bet you have 1.3.

4) You know you have an expanded processor card if the slot just to the left is occupied and assuming you did not acquire this in Germany. Those German mobo's
routinely had a 1mb Ram card there. Not sure where you are posting from, but if you are from Germany and
it's an early enough revision motherboard, you're going to have more problems using that Fast Slot. Anyway...
sysinfo will also tell you what processor you have, what kind of Agnus and Denise chips as well. I'd guess you have just the 68000 though and that is suitable for running OS 1.3-3.1. 1.3 is the way to go if you're not going to be
doing much with the computer besides gaming from floppy. If you want to do more modern things with your late
80's era Amiga, you're going to want to install a 3.1 Rom and OS 3.1.
 
5)  8mb Fast Ram is the limit on Amiga's with the 68000 processor. To get more than
that, you'll have ram added about the 16-bit addressing of the Zorro II standard. In
other words, the nicer accelerator cards 030+ have ram slots and are configured as
32-bit ram. These types of cards typically allow you to add as little as 1mb 32-bit
Fast Ram all the way up to 128mb.

It's fun to tweak and upgrade Amiga's, especially if you have a specific task for it in
mind. IF you're looking to play the occasional game, you're likely not going to need to
soup her up too much. All depends on what you want to do with her.

Since you mentioned something about a slightly flaky power supply, I'd start with that
first. Either have it repaired or find another one. Chances are, the one you find later
will need servicing too anyway.

Accelerating your Amiga can be frustrating as hell for a myriad of reasons. You've
been warned. Find out what you'd like to do with this machine and we can further
advise you on what to do, where to go, etc.
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Re: Some Amiga 2000 Newbie Questions
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 07:13:46 AM »
Oh cool, 6.2 - so you have one of the latest mobo's they released. Glad to hear your power supply is probably fine then. Almost forgot one of the most important tidbits: when you go to install the new Kickstart ROM, be sure to examine the battery!! These almost always are bad and leak their acid near vital circuitry. Remove it if it hasn't been removed already and replace it with one of DJBase's lithium battery kit. Replacing the battery isn't just good advice: it's absolutely necessary!

Oh - and ALL A2000's only output B/W through their composite outputs. You'd need an A520 adapter if you want to use the 1902 with it, but of course, you're better off going RGB with a 1080, 1084, etc.

Indivision has board coming out for A500's and A2000's that will allow you to use modern VGA CRT and LCD monitors. Great investment for sure and would alleviate the need to track down an old Commodore Amiga monitor.

West Chester burn-in indicates where the final testing was done. "Burn-in" is a phrase used to show that the components received several hours of what is supposed to be scrupulous testing; to ensure reliability.

BTW: if you haven't done it already - go ahead and clean out the dust on your motherboard! That'll help keep the old girl cool so she'll last longer  :-)  Some people swear by those silly air cans. First off, they contain moisture and moisture leads to oxidation. Second, they only merely blow the dust around. Where do people think it magically settles? Best method for getting dust off motherboards and electronics is to get a brush with long bristles (use camel hair if you're that worried about static electricity - it's a horrible conductor) and a vacuum cleaner. Brush the dust off the components, the board itself and anything else that looks caked with dust into the hose of the vacuum and voila! you'll end up with a much cleaner computer than if you were just to have used compressed air.
 

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Re: Some Amiga 2000 Newbie Questions
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 06:45:21 PM »
Quote from: Huxley_D;517018
It's currently sitting in my trunk, but once I'm home tonight I'll take a close look inside and see what I might find!

Huxley

How exciting for you! Opening up *ANY* Amiga can garner some interesting finds. Here's to an 060 card lurking inside   :-)   lol

@marcfrick2112... yes, camel hair brushes are well known and used in the audiophile community as an LP duster. I've got one or two in fact, super soft stuff and never spits at you!

Hmm... I wonder how tarantula hair would fare...  LOL!
 

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Re: Some Amiga 2000 Newbie Questions
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 08:51:58 PM »
Quote from: Nostalgiac;517039
as Save2600 already said, go and get Sysinfo from Aminet.net

Will tell you all this and more :-)

Tom UK

But if you're not able to get stuff off the net and into your Miggy, than just look at the Denise chip and see if it has the part #8373. The code names of the custom chips are screened onto the motherboard. Denise is over by the video slot under the power supply...

@Nostalgic, I think you meant to say the 6.2 mobo's came with the 1mb Agnus(8372A). It was the 3000 that came with the 8372AB - that allowed 2mb Chip. I had to get an 8375 Agnus and the 1mb adapter board in order to get 2mb chip ram on my 6.2 rev, mobo. My 6.2 A2000 just had a 1mb 8372A in it originally, but yes, it did have SuperDenise... whee!  lol
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