FS: Blizzard 2060

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That card is mine, all mine Kin! Thanks for trying to beat me to it though ;-)    lol

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Red, it amazes me how much you think this stuff is worth OR perhaps... what you sometimes get for your wares. I do not think $450 is "cheap" for a computer peripheral as outdated as this, without a regular warranty of any kind, etc. In fact, I think this stuff is rather expensive since I'm just looking for a faster WB experience and probably a bunch of headaches getting it to install and work with WHDLoad, TCP stacks, my large GB HD, etc. lol   Many, many headaches and dollars spent investing in the Miggy - but all part of the "hobby" as we all know.

And you know what? I would bet you good dollars that say, after a while, if I wanted to sell this card - I would/could NOT get what I paid for it. Happens all the time in this community. Sometimes you get lucky, but most of the time, *I* have not. But WTF... I've only been using Amiga's since '87, so what do I know   ;-)  

Heck, I'm trying to sell my GVP 030 combo card to help finance this. What do you think *that's* worth? I have it priced at $180 with ram that was just bought from Softhut, etc. And it really bugs me when people say my stuff is not "worth" what it is. $100 for a combo card all day long on ePay + $80 in brand new, currently produced ram. Why should I take a hit on the ram when it is *brand new* and tested? (one of the simms were bad actually, and I had to get a replacement straight away). And no, these companies never refund for shipping defective products back to them. Since we are on the subject of nickels and dimes.

If *you* can get more for a card like this or my card, may God bless you and probably *has* been blessing you as you definitely seem to have the Midas touch that way.

If your post was designed to make me feel better about plonking down this kind of cash... somehow I still don't feel it's a "steal"  :-)    It's just something I've been wanting to treat myself to for a while and have finally taken the plunge. TekMagics seem to hover around the $500 mark and I've seen GVP's and others anywhere from $250-$450. Not at your store of course... unless they have been sold as broken  :crazy:    One could make a statement about the sanity or wisdom of some of your customers, but what the hey. This *is* just another "justifiable" hobby after all  


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@ Arkanoid:

Very well said, spot on and thank you.  :idea:

I remember Christian (AllocVec) from the good ol' days of Usenet. Which, I might add, I would rather be using and miss dearly. The online experience is changing and from my vantage point - not for the better.

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@ Red:

What sense does it make for you to chime in with a peanut gallery comment such as the one you made? "waaaaay to cheap".

Oh that's right... because you're an opportunist with an agenda that wants to ensure that ridiculous prices for this stuff keeps on flowing for *you*.

And no... we would never confuse you of running a charity. That's for darn sure  ;-)

How would you like it if someone responded to some of your outrageous prices with: "waaaay too much"??  Or how about: "Red... why don't you give *something* back to the community since the community are often times the one that HELPS you out with hardware/software probs"?  Getting free advice from experts or parts you need here, just so you can gouge ePay clients, is tacky to say the least (not saying you've done nothing for the community). Or dangling some of your wares around like a carrot, knowing full well they're going to ePay in seconds...

This topic has been beaten to death time and time again. Religion? Hell no. Reality and sensibility? Hell yes. You're on a much different wavelength than some of us, that's all. If you want to continue gouging all day long on ePay - then that is your right. Some of us just know better. Some are afraid to speak up. Some might even "worship" you. lol  Or as I've said before... some of us are not as "resourceful" as you. Sometimes we can be though. Thanks for trying to ruin that for *some* of us. Who knows, maybe someday, you'll look back and feel differently about some of these things. We all do from time to time and its part and parcel to the life experience.

My apologies to everyone here that feel the need to continually suck up to Jim. I've not felt the need to behave that way since grade school  :-D

BTW: the price that I "guessed" (even though I have a currency exchange widget - thanks) includes s/h to the States. Guess I got even a better deal, huh?  And $800 or more for this thing? Are you frickin' kidding? I'll tell you what... when I get it, you list it in your 'greater than thou' store and when it sells for that much, I'll slip a $100 your way. Of course, we'll then have to figure out ePay's commission, PayPal's fee, the possibility the buyer scams us through PayPal - claiming it does not work, etc. Hmm... this scenario is starting to sound like a potential deal made with the devil! lol

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Wow, Red - you really do have a slanted view of things, huh?

Guess money grubbing will do that to you.

Quantity of posts<>decency no relevance whatsoever. Some of us joined later for different reasons.

And we're not talking about autos here. We're talking about a certain computer that DOES indeed hold a certain status/cult with most of its users.

Do you or would you hang out in an auto forum preaching your greedy economics? And then try to sell autos? Maybe you should. You're starting to sound more like a used car salesman by the minute.  

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Pot. Kettle. Black.

Your sentence of "waaay to cheap" is not a 'discussion'. It was a spiteful insult w/ an agenda perceived by anyone with any sense.  

I'm blocked from your ePay auctions? Now you're really stooping and showing your maturity. Perhaps you're not as greedy as we thought since *my* money is longer "good". Oh well, no loss. No loss at all.

(using the example of 'getting around to reading the posting rules')... Mom! Red just blocked me from using eBay! Hmm... sure seems communistic to me. Didn't you just say you were not a communist?

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Red,

 In response to you {bleep}ing about not getting rich and this NOT being an easy venture for you... do you really think you are helping a community out by buying low and selling high to *it*?  

Nobody said or cares if your "job" is easy. That is totally irrelevant. In fact, in some ways, I'd say that YOU are counterproductive to this very hobby.

But I should stop there. There are those that agree, those that disagree and those that just don't care. I didn't mean for this to turn so ugly. Like I said, you are you and I am I. Different wavelengths on how we feel about things - obviously.

Only judgement here is that you make it obvious that you're an opportunist and your comment of "waaay to cheap" was totally uncalled for.

I still think, IMO, you should be in a business that offers higher returns. Instead of carrying on with a mentality that has plagued Amiga computing since its inception. Really. Since you seem to have a great handle on the economics of things, I think you'd choose to devote your time and effort on something more productive monetarily. Auto's and Real Estate for instance.

Unless of course, you're buying up large lots of Amiga gear for pennies on the dollar. Don't be insulted. The auto industry was and is forever grilled about how much money they make. Does anyone respect the American auto industry - especially since they begged for a handout we all know was and will be futile? Your defensive stance reminds me of the 3 execs flying in to Congress on their private jets.  lol   Just plain silly and an example of adults not knowing how to conduct themselves - no matter how many posts they may have contributed.  lol

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Quote from Red:

'Nope, you are exactly the type of person who would buy an item, get it in perfect condition at the price clearly listed, and then leave an anonymous poor star rating because you felt you paid too much. You've made it very clear what you think. I don't need customers like that, it harms my ability to do business.'

Red - that's total 100% BS. You do not know me and I would NEVER conduct myself that way to anyone - ever. You extrapolated something here that is totally out of line. It's sad you would lump me in with so many ePay {bleep}s these days. Same kind of stuff happens to me and I am not the kind of person to give someone a bad time there.

The reality of it is this... honestly, I've always thought of you as someone much like myself. Somewhat of a hobbyist that falls into things. Like to tinker, play around for a while and then resell with an MO that would allow me to further invest in whatever hobby. That's by and large, the main difference though and you've made that apparent. Me selling a few Amiga items here and there ain't gonna pay the bills. Nor would I ever devote that much time trying to get them to pay the bills. A lifestyle choice I guess. I watch your auctions and I've watched your posts from the late 90's to now. I know I've bought stuff from you before. These last couple of years though, I have witnessed a slightly different mentality. Not sure what the deal is (besides some of the obvious), but you're starting to show your true colours. Whatever the excuse is, whatever may be going on in your personal life. Fine. Whatever.

If you think it's appropriate to hijack someone's response in an unprofessional way - knowing full well many look to you for goods, then fine. Just don't be surprised if it starts happening to your posts. Most here respect you though. Enough at least, to let you and your fantastic prices be.  

This thread has totally gotten out of hand. Can we just agree to disagree here? Sorry if you feel you're being picked on (probably hasn't happened in a while and you're uber defensive now) but I'm sure you're a big boy. Especially since you've got 9000 posts under your belt. Or are my calculations wrong? lol  Sorry - couldn't resist.  

Happy frickin' New Year Red! May you continue to be so prosperous selling Commie stuff in 2009.  :-)

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Thanks Firedawg, I look forward to playing around with this card and hope it breathes new life into my A2000!

-D- said it perfectly in his observation that these types of cards HAVE gone for much less at different times of the year. And they have. What I paid is somewhere in the middle to be sure.

I cannot remember ever commenting in between a seller and potential buyers on the level that Red did (although I've had something to say once or twice about someone overpaying, especially when I've offered the same thing for less...  lol). Very offensive, especially when someone has been looking for an "affordable" solution. Reminds me of when I was a teenager and my best friend liked the same gal I was rooting around for...  LOL!   There's a phrase for that kind of behaviour...  :madashell:

And 'Arkanoid' is right about my observation of the professionalism. I really don't have it out for Red. Precisely why his unprofessional response left me a little flabbergasted. Have looked upon him as being more of a "high-end" dealer. Great stashes and the like that personally, I have not 'wanted' to afford since gradually becoming an adult with a different set of priorities. Many of us know that sooner or later, much of this stuff can and does find it's way VERY cheaply or 'fairly' into our laps. It's the nature of the hobby. Which is why Red's comment was counterproductive - since it was inserted into a forum where after 9000 posts and all the experience that comes with said posts, he should know was going to be met with many of the responses he received.

Oh well. Time to move forward and enjoy New Years Eve. I've now got a good sized headache that can only be cured by some Hacker Pschorr right about now  :pint:

Cheers all!

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Kin-Hell, since I've "known" you here and on Amibay, you've always been on the fairer sense of things - IMO & that's great.

But too much censorship is not good. With the mild (and somewhat appropriate) censorship such as found here, the community gets a chance to see for themselves who and what people are all about. For better or for worse, whether it's in my favour or not (always hope it is though). We may then better choose who we'd like to trade with. Great example: the feedback ratings on ePay are now meaningless, thanks to their ridiculous new policies. Give me freedom of speech or give me more beer until I am fat, happy and don't give a hoot!  lol

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IMO - you should think less of anyone that ignores an offer and vice versa. If it was a totally inappropriate offer, you can at least call the guy any one of the colourful metaphors quickly at your disposal OR counteroffer. Ignoring someone is immature to say the least.

Ignoring people via e-mail is a trend that more and more people mistakingly use to their supposed "advantage". It's rude and your parents should have taught you better! lol  So there you have it. A higher standard type of thing. Again. Don't get used to it. It's not acceptable. At least, it should not be acceptable.

In the case of blocking my bids... is pretty fitting as the pieces fall together here. If Red thinks he is "punishing" me by blocking my bids, well - maybe he will be able to sleep that much better at night. lol

Honestly, the only people I have had to block was when I would sell PeeCee or Nintendo stuff. Soooooo many more scammers aligned with those platforms. Yes, I am profiling. It is not a crime. Insurance companies and creditors do it all the time  ;-)

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Arkanoid wrote:

'The old "more posts" = "more important" is a common response from people on forums, particularly if they think they're losing an argument.'

...which is precisely why *some* of us took as long as we did to bother to set up yet another user name and another password for something that should have NEVER strayed from comp.sys.amiga.xxxx in the first place. We knew what this web based stuff was all about, who it caters to and many continually prove our point. As was done with MANY Hotmail and AOL users time and time again from the 90's. As Red well knows.

Lot's of immaturity going on in these new web based forums. Drunk with "power", censorship and the whole bit. Ironic when you think about it. Many of these web based fanboys voted for "change"...  LOL!!!

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LOL!

What a thread, what a thread!  :-o

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Kin, OMG - are you serious? You too are banned??  :-o

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I almost do not know what to say at this point. Seems if anyone disagrees with Red or tries to interject with a superior or different moral compass, you're going to get banned.

I'm starting to think something else is going on here. Medication issue perhaps. Stress. I dunno. It's all very weird. Hate to see it continue, but if it's going to...

Linky to Crazy Eddie commercial

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In a perfect world - YES, there's certainly some apologies that should be made. But it's not enough to just say "I'm sorry". Behaviours and attitudes clearly need to be changed and this business of blocked bidders is completely and utterly childish. If the acceptable business and personal MO is to be immature, manipulative, controlling and degrading to the Amiga community, I'm surprised certain people have lasted this long here. Honestly.  

Okay Red - you go first...  

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