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Offline Colani1200

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Re: About time...
« on: October 06, 2006, 10:06:56 PM »
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leirbag28 wrote:

Unfortunately Linux Will NEVER gain alot of ground NEVER! the simple reason being that the programmers DO NOT undertsand a simple concept:   Not everyone knows UNIX! nor are they interested in being forced to use super strange commands or the shell to accomplish something. Even their "DownLoad Wizardz" are hard as hell to use.


What you don't understand (similar to M$ btw) is the difference between the OS and its applications. And knowing Unix or not is just a question of what you started with. There are people out there who don't know a {bleep} about Windows, yet they're Unix experts because it was the first thing they used.


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Nobody is interested in the fact that  Ubuntu ccannot come with MP3 and DVD codecs as standard (stupendously ridiculous).  its like that stupid Gif copyright crap that was going on a few years ago.


If you're not interested in licenses, patents, intellectual property and its impact on society, then really Linux is probably the wrong thing for you. You'll never understand it.

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Yes I agree with you. We have no choice. You have to live in the world with other people and other people use Windows. I have Ubuntu as well and its clever and I like the philosophy but its not mainstream. The sad fact is most people want a computer to be like a microwave or other consumer good, they just want it to work with minimum effort.


Windows claims to do that, but it really doesn't, and I doubt it ever will. It just hides the problems from the user behind a fancy surface, making it hard to troubleshoot anything if something goes wrong. It will continue to leave people with their systems being infected or compromised, their data being stolen, and the "fun" of periodical reinstalling. My bet is that it will get even worse with Vista, because Vista is trying to take away even more control from the user.
 

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Re: About time...
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2006, 12:40:01 PM »
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Most are forced to use the Windows platform for business - it is entrenched now.
Fantasies of an Amiga resurrection, Linux coup, etc are just that - fantasies.  Ain't gonna happen.  The corporate world runs on Windows, and society will therefore demand that the education system runs on windows, and that homes run on windows.


I disagree. In fact, things are finally changing - at least from what I can tell here in Germany. Companies as well as officials are fed up with being dependent on the mood of one single company. Linux could be found on the server for a long time, but there are more and more desktop installations on business and also government PCs. Best example is the city of Munich.
 

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Re: About time...
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2006, 01:05:57 PM »
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Dude, one locust doesn't make a swarm.

Next some Mac enthusiast will post a link showing how his local high school or university has switched from Windows to Mac - big deal.


Err..... I think you should know Munich, even if you're from down under.

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Operating systems are a commodity, and commodity markets are dominated by those with the strength in distribution channels, the marketing clout to dominate, and the consumer recognition.


I'm not talking about consumers. We all know that they're stupid (that makes them buy the iPod instead of a better player, nice example.) I'm talking about companies and governments and thus about political decisions. And btw, I guess the ftp sites of the various Linux distors are amongst the strongest distribution channels you'll find.  ;-)