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From: "eyetech_group" Date: Wed Jul 24, 2002 10:39 pmSubject: Re: More Foolishness Was: Yet more delays--- In amigaone@y..., "jtsiren" wrote:> --- In amigaone@y..., NeRP wrote:> > Hello jpkurki> (...)> > [cutting all the whining, sniveling, crying, doomsaying, and> generally> > negative attitude out]> (...)> > Regards> > NeRP> This post is not to say anything other than to acknowledge, atleast> by someone, that Joanna, despite her views as they have been> presented here, has truly given something back to the community and> supported a cause she hoped she could belive in.>> I respect her for that, and I do believe she deserves to be treated> better than called "whining, sniveling, crying, doomsaying, and> generally negative" without any effort to offer constructive> arguments.I have to say I agree with Joanne and Janne. If I was in Joanna'sshoes I'd be asking exactly the same questions. The problem is thatthis list is public, and whatever I (or the rest of the Amigaonepartners) say it gets copied, misinterpreted and severely criticisedon the other newslists like ann etc.So what do we do? We make a closed list like the A1G3dev list - whichis highly democratic, productive and busy but is by invitation only -or we release interim information to this list with all the timeconsuming extra explanations needed after cross postings by thecerebrally-challanged or malicious readers hereabouts.Nevertheless I think its time for a brief update.Many dev board purchasers were clearly motivated by the 10% discountrather than their ability to contribute to the developer process. Theinitial boards were therefore shipped to those who could make a realcontribution to developing drivers etc, and porting Linux/UAEdistributions. Their progress has been astounding IMO with no lessthan 5 different linux distributions (SuSE, Debian, Mandrake, YellowDog and TurboLinux) being ported within a couple of weeks.However the Softex open firmware we had originally shipped with thedev boards (incidently as seen on the Pegasos video) has severalshortcomings (although this has been used to boot the 5 linuxdistributions and the OS4 kernel) and we are currentlydeveloping/extending the alternative PPCBoot open firmware for use onthe production AmigaOne boards. This will allow us to build in Amiga-specific boot etc options, a well as a more comprehensive multi-bootenvironment.We are not shipping the remainder of the dev boards (or any of theuser boards) until this code is complete because of the expense ofshipping update ROMs and chip changing tools. This is anticipated tobe towards the end of August.This revision to the boot ROM is being undertaken by Hyperion as partof the work necessary for booting OS4 on the A1.Meanwhile the Amiga Inc club membership/coupon program results(coupled with our own market extrapolation processes) means that thefuture of the AmigaOne is in no doubt.Finally several people have asked us why we are not delivering the A1board to Linux users in advance of the release of OS4. Well there aretwo main reasons:1 - This is a product we are producing for the Amiga market and IMOit is proper that the Amiga community get their hands on it first.2 - I still cannot see why there would be a significant market forLinux on the A1 given that the main focus of Linux is the x86platform, which - because of sheer sales volumes - will always be anorder of magnitude cheaper than a ppc-based product.Hope this helpsAlan