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Offline Hans_

Re: Sorry to ask that again, but...
« on: December 02, 2008, 12:43:46 AM »
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hbarcellos wrote:
Just saw that: http://www.morphos.de/hardware.html

Only Radeons and 3dfx. That looks common on Amiga OSes. Just for curiosity why nvidia is not supported?



NVidia refuse to give anyone the developer documentation required to write a driver, and their own driver team won't develop for a platform with so few users (it's just a waste of money and time for them). It is theoretically possible to reverse engineer the drivers, but, seeing as AMD (ATI) are more cooperative, why bother?

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Offline Hans_

Re: Sorry to ask that again, but...
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 12:50:19 AM »
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hbarcellos wrote:

Wouldn't it be perfect to buy a MacMini and a fresh copy of OS4? I KNOW THIS IS A BAD, REALLY BAD QUESTION!


There is no official Mac Mini port so the only way to run Amiga OS 4.x on the Mac is to use the stolen Moana code that's floating around. This is, of course, illegal. Added to that, it only works on a few particular models/revisions of the Mac Mini, and, it is buggy (or so I'm told, I've never seen it).

If you want Amiga OS 4.x, just buy a SAM 440ep, and Amiga OS 4.1. That is available now, and officially supported.

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Offline Hans_

Re: Sorry to ask that again, but...
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 03:02:03 AM »
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hbarcellos wrote:
Didn't knew that. Actually some time ago, when I was playing with FreeBSD on my x86 box I found that only NVIDIA had 3d acceleration support. And I remember reading somewhere that Nvidia had better support to free operating systems. Now, you're telling me something different...


Not at all, NVidia wrote the drivers for FreeBSD/Linux themselves. Those drivers are not open-source.

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Offline Hans_

Re: Sorry to ask that again, but...
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 03:14:02 AM »
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hbarcellos wrote:
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If you want Amiga OS 4.x, just buy a SAM 440ep, and Amiga OS 4.1. That is available now, and officially supported.


1) Just buy Sam440p
2) Just buy hardisk, power supply and other peripherals
3) Just find a case that fits


Or, just buy a complete package, such as can be found here or here.


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5) If you're not a case modder, just look to something that looks like a regular geek modded pc, maybe with UV LED fans all around.

SAM 440ep is a mini-ITX board, so any Mini-ITX case will work; they are available. These cases can be bought easily here in New Zealand, so it shouldn't be hard to get a hold of.

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With all respect to Sam440p, which I'm sure it is a great product, I don't want to buy it. I don't know exactly why I don't, but I don't.


Well, it's your call. Complaining about there being no port for the Mac Mini won't get you an Amiga OS 4.1 machine. The SAM 440ep is what's available. Hopefully the SAM 440ep-flex will be available be Christmas too, but there's no guarantee. As an OS 4.1 user myself, I think that it's a great system (although I have an A1-XE G4, not a SAM).

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Offline Hans_

Re: Sorry to ask that again, but...
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 02:53:15 AM »
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Trev wrote:
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The documentation for the Mac motherboards is impossible to onbtain.


And that's not stopped anyone else from reverse engineering the bits that needed it.


We know that the Moana project by ACube was a port to Mac-Mini so the no documentation thing doesn't hold. Hyperion Entertainment decided that it didn't make business sense to do the port, so they're not going to do it. I'm a little surprised that they see no point in taking the Moana project and finishing it off, but it's their decision. If someone else wanted to do the port, and showed Hyperion a suitable business plan, I'd expect them to consider it.

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