Next step for Amiga(like)OS?

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Painkiller wrote:
I have MOS 2.0 currently installed on my PEG II and I haven't had this good "Amiga" experience in years. The system is responsive, it support modern USB devices out of the box etc. AOS is far behind and it has little to none hardware to run on etc. There isn't a single good program to run on AOS that wouldn't have been ported to MOS or have a better alternative at MOS.

Far behind? I think not. Comparing the MOS 2.0 and AOS 4.1 feature lists, I think that they're in a pretty similar state actually.

Hans

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BTW, combining the coding teams from MOS, AOS4 and/or AROS would hit one fatal snag: deciding which bits from which OS to keep. No-one wants to see their hard work discarded, and, for the most part, each OS has its own version of many features. Some have said that AOS4 has nothing to offer the MOS team. Likewise, MOS has nothing to offer the AOS4 team.

I think that it's funny how most seem to assume that cooperation would mean the AOS4 team joining MOS. If something like that were to happen, they'd probably start a new OS effort with a new name, which would just happen to include components from both OSes.

What could have been neat is if all Amiga-like OSes used the same driver model for all devices. That way, a graphics driver for one, would work on the other; ditto for USB, audio, etc. But, we'd be stuck with the same problem. All sides would say "great idea, my standard is the best, use mine."

Hans

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amigadave wrote:
I also agree that there is not much of a difference in the features and functionality between AOS4.x and MOS2.x, but there are two very large differences between the two OSes, 1) MOS2.x is not tied up in a court battle (at this time, and hopefully never in the future) and 2) there is at least one mobo in current production that it runs on.

Not quite true. According to Genesi the Efika production ceased in September 2007. There is some existing stock, but no more are being produced. I'm assuming that the MOS team will have access to the Efika 2 when it's available, but the Efika is not actually in production.

Hans

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@AeroMan

AeroMan wrote:

Hans_ wrote:

... but the Efika is not actually in production.

Hans

Well, another dead end. I believe MOS people probably have support from Genesi to develop for their products, but wouldn´t it be a good idea to port it to PS3 ?

Some people raised the idea of Power Macs (as we always do) but they are out of production also.

PS3 is a powerful platform, it is in production and there are lots of reasons to buy it other than running a OS. There is also a nice installed base.

At least there are millions of Power Macs in existence. My vote would be for a PowerBook/iBook (the PowerPC version), as I would like an Amiga laptop. Both Amiga OS 4, and MorphOS (IIRC) have been shown with beta ports to PowerPC Mac hardware. So it's likely to happen.

AROS or MOS in PS3 would rock :bow:

Any AOS4 on PS3 wouldn't? :-P

Hans

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@takemehomegrandma

AFAICT, Painkiller's post was talking about the technical aspects of the OS.

This whole "OS4 is as dead as a beaten horse" routine is getting really old and boring. Some people have been saying that for years. The fact that OS 4.1 even exists suggests strongly that it isn't dead.

Hans

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takemehomegrandma wrote:

Hans_ wrote:
BTW, combining the coding teams from MOS, AOS4 and/or AROS would hit one fatal snag: deciding which bits from which OS to keep.

Yeah, MorphOS got MUI4, Cybergraphics, Poseidon and Ambient. Tough call! ;-)

Ah yes, takemehomegrandma, the "MOS is superior in every way" guy. I don't see Cybergraphics as superior to Picasso96, nor am I all that impressed with what little I've seen of Ambient. Then there are all the other OS components. Factor in the egos, and, BOOM!

Hans

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takemehomegrandma wrote:

Hans_ wrote:
@takemehomegrandma

AFAICT, Painkiller's post was talking about the technical aspects of the OS.

This whole "OS4 is as dead as a beaten horse" routine is getting really old and boring.

Maybe it's about time to get used to it?

You can be used to it, and still find it old and boring.

Some people have been saying that for years. The fact that OS 4.1 even exists suggests strongly that it isn't dead.

Sorry to say this, but it suggests *nothing* else than that development has been continued *despite* the poor legal situation.

Sorry to say this, but continued development is contrary to the "dead" status that you claim.

Hans