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Offline Hans_

Re: Hyperion takes bat, swings for McBill's head!
« on: June 28, 2007, 07:58:30 PM »
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Tigger wrote:
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guru-666 wrote:
? If anything It increased Hyperion's chances of winning!


Not at all.  The entire Itec-KMOS transfer is a non-issue now (though it always should have been), the entire they didnt pay us enough is now a non-issue.  The only thing Hyperion has left is AI(Washington) was legally insolvent on April 23, 2003 (no true, so thats not going to work) and we completed the OS in December of 2004 but didnt pay anyone like we were supposed to when it was completed, and we also didnt tell AI we were done, instead we kept working on it until December of 2006, when we actually told everyone we were done, so they paid us too late, but we still didnt send them back all that money they gave us for the buyback.   Thats not going to go well either.  Why on earth do you think this helps Hyperions case, they've invalidated half of there points in one fell swoop.  
    -Tig


Don't Hyperion also claim that the IP transfer from Amiga W to Itec, was invalid, even fraudulent? You're right that the arguments regarding the Itec to KMOS and then Amiga D are now a non-issue, but to me, it looks like the arguments will now be redirected to Itec. It's the same arguments, just a different target (owned and run by the same people).

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Offline Hans_

Re: Hyperion takes bat, swings for McBill's head!
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 08:04:17 PM »
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TjLaZer wrote:
It's funny how everyone is so anti piracy on here with regards to sending Kickstart ROMs, Workbench disks and similar things, but when the "latest" OPERATING SYSTEM is being ripped off and sold by a 3rd party nobody thinks that is wrong???  Jeeze.  Amiga, Inc is obviously still in business and had contracted out to have the OS created, but they own the OS!  I see it going in their favor.  Good thing this is happening in a US court.


The issues aren't that simple. According to the license agreement, Hyperion own their work on OS4 until Amiga Inc. exercises their "buy-in" (or "buy-back"). In the mean-time they can market and sell it using the associated Amiga trademarks.

Amiga Inc. claim that they paid the $25000 + outstanding debts in full, and therefore should get the source-code. Hyperion claims that this is not the case. Piracy really doesn't come into it. Both sides are trying to protect what they see as theirs.

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Offline Hans_

Re: Hyperion takes bat, swings for McBill's head!
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 08:05:42 PM »
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bhoggett wrote:
It's still one bunch of crooks beating up on another bunch of crooks. Whoever wins the Amiga lost a long time ago.


Spy vs Spy

Crook vs Crook

Sounds like a new cartoon.  :lol:

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Offline Hans_

Re: Hyperion takes bat, swings for McBill's head!
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 08:11:39 PM »
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cpfuture wrote:
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bhoggett wrote:
It's still one bunch of crooks beating up on another bunch of crooks. Whoever wins the Amiga lost a long time ago.


Yep, this is one big pile of doodoo. Any chance of the name Amiga being taken seriously again has disappeared long ago.


In relation to this lawsuit, the Amiga name isn't really tarnished in the eyes of the average consumer, simply because this lawsuit doesn't even register on their horizon. Apart from the few thousand of us visiting the various Amiga fora, nobosy even knows, or cares, that it's happening.

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