The coolest thing I've seen this week

[Raffaele]

Apple Users? Bunch of Luzers!

Do Apple pays you any little money for making Mac evangelism on pages of Amiga only sites?

Go in Apple Stures and pay your money for overpriced Intel hardware with a cool design for rich computer noobs, and pay your money for a FREE OS (BSD) full of eyecandies and renamed as Mac OS X to get it copyrighted.

Apple are the jackals of the computer world.

They started by recycling chips in the trash and later they got the idea of icons and mouse from Xerox and never stopped since then.

[Raffaele]

tone007 wrote:
Que viva los dolces de ojos!

..or something.

Eyecandy is important, and a big part of why I purchased an '060 accelerator for my 1200.

Only enhance graphics is important...

Eyecandies are for n00b2...

[EDIT]

And perhaps with eyecandies, the computer world entered in its BAROQUE age...

New OSes are full of eyecandies but with no real contents at all, and all these eyecandies are here just to justify the purchase of new pumped hardware...

What a waste of money and what a waste of good hardware...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque

In informal usage, the word baroque can simply mean that something is "elaborate", with many details

The term "Baroque" was initially used with a derogatory meaning, to underline the excesses of its emphasis. In particular, the term was used to describe its eccentric redundancy and noisy abundance of details, which sharply contrasted the clear and sober rationality of the Renaissance.

[Raffaele]

bloodline wrote:
Hahaha :lol: yeah because using out of date technology makes a computer so much more special!

I bought a Pegasos machine in 2005, its hardware it is of 2001/2002 and it is rock solid hardware, and only now it is beginning becaming out-of-date, but just because there is RAM DDR2, SATA HDDs, and PCI express bus out of there.

But If I will never buy a 3GIG RAM computer only to run unuseful Vista or spend more money for MAC just to have cool designed cases.

And in graphics and usability I can pi** on any baroque macquintosque...

I'm happy Apple now use the latest technology, now I can use the best tech in a machine that looks like a work of art.

This answer really demonstrates your presence here is unuseful...

Get lost in macholic sites, and do not bother us anymore if you are not an amigan anymore.

People like you who hail different techologies, just for their look appeal, is best to be lost than to stay in our community.

Oh, and MacOS X isn't "just BSD with eye candy", I suggest reading up on the Coca application framework and the XNU kernel... Wikipedia will help here.

Apple: Money from su*k*rs and OS from free...

Indeed it is a big business making an OS that easy and sell it overpriced by just adapting a kernel, a graphic interface, and a mac filesystem on an exsisting free multitasking OS...

EDIT:

And perhaps I believed in new Amiga-like hardware and I invested my money in it...

And am I happy with it?

YES!

I can testimoby my peggy is a cool computer with cool OS!

Who had the same courage here on this forum and purchased new Amiga machines to keep alive the platform?

[Raffaele]

JJ wrote:
You talk a fair amount of rubbish.  Whatever people choose to use, or like is their perosnal opinion and their choice.

If anyone should go and use another site its you.  You bring nothing to a conversation and seem to know very little.

At least bloodline has decent knowledge and objective views.

We are on AMIGA.ORG and not on MAC.ORG

And perhaps what part of "This is an Amiga related forum" you did not understand?

So stay in topic with Amiga...

If you prefer Macintoshes and buy Mac hardware, well I congratulate with you, but then please post your mac apprecciation on Mac related sites.

We AMIGANS want to talk about Amiga here...

[Raffaele]

JJ wrote:
This site has always allowed and welcomed discusssions about other OS/Hardware.  This is usually supposed to be in the correct forums, and this thread has gone slightly OT.

If you want to be an amiga zealot with no logic that I suggest you hang arounf amigaworld.net.  They will love you there

I will welcome any other OS/hardware threads but I do not think that this forum is for CELEBRATE other OS/hardware, otherwise I never had registered here.

I want to talk in peace with people that share my same interests, and an Amiga topic site, is created for AMIGANS...

And perhaps, if you are so sure about that freedom of speech on machintosh sites, try to open a thread on Mac related forums, and say that Macs are overpriced and that you had preferred far better a MacOS on sale that could run on cheap PC hardware...

In vaste major of Mac related sites you will be kicked out and your thread will be completely removed to be sure that other people could not see it.

Such freedom of speech and such tolerant people...

Repeat myself if you people are Mac Luvers then stay on mac Luver sites.

This is an Amiga site and even If I am a fanboy I hav the right to share my Amiga interest with other Amiga fanboys AND I WANT NOT BE BOTHERED BY OCCULTE "BUY MACINTOSH" ADVERTISING HERE.

EDIT:

And perhaps regaqrding the person who opened this thread, it should not stay in Amiga General Chat.

If you believe that MacBook you purchased it is the best experience you had since Amiga, then you had posted it in Alternative OS section of this forum...

http://www.amiga.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=10

[Raffaele]

JJ wrote:
I like getting naked and rubbing myself with MACs....mmmmmmmmmmm it feels sooooooo good  :-D  :-D  :-D

I wonder if yours is some regression to childish age?

[Raffaele]

tone007 wrote:

Raffaele wrote:
I bought a Pegasos machine in 2005

And perhaps I believed in new Amiga-like hardware

This is Amiga.org, not Pegasos.org!  What are you doing here?!  Sure, that system is Amiga-like, in that it has a mouse and keyboard.

Well, I am saving to purchase SAM440 + AmigaOS 4.1, so then I will demonstrate I invested twice in modern Amiga technologies...

While vaste majority here is nuthing than a bunch of nostalgics who are here on Amiga.org to cry about Amiga, and to ask suggestions on how they can emulate retrogaming.

Pathetic...

bloodline wrote:
@Raffaele

But I love technology... That love of technology got me into the Amiga... I'm not going to stop loving technology just because the Amiga died. Most of the Amiga scene was built around people who love technology, people I can relate to... They are still here and we still keep on top of the latest developments...

If you believe that Amiga is dead, then why are you here?

We are here beacuse Amiga is alive, being sold on the market, and still evolving despite the poor amount of money that actual firms could invest in it...

Sure we are not full of money like Apple that trains and refunds the Macintosh computers subsidiary with the money gained due to enormous selling of IPODs...  :roll:

[Raffaele]

JJ wrote:
No, just trying to point out, through the medium of humour, how ridiculous your posts are.

You pervert...

Trying to point your view by rubbing yourself with poor underage Mac computers that couldn't self defense...  :oops:

[Raffaele]

tone007 wrote:

Raffaele wrote:
Well, I am saving to purchase SAM440 + AmigaOS 4.1

And you want to talk about Apple charging ridiculous prices for hardware...  That SAM440 board makes just about anything put out by Apple look like a bargain.

As Sam440 runs AmigaOS 4.1 any price is a bargain... :roll:

Keep your snobbery, and let the Apple snobs keep theirs!

Yes, you got the point...

Keeping the snobbery...

I keep my snobbism HERE on an AMIGA site.

They can keep THEIR snobbish on THEIR MAC RELATED SITES...  :rtfm:

[Raffaele]

tone007 wrote:

Raffaele wrote:
Apple Users? Bunch of Luzers!

Such an inflammatory remark, clearly designed to provoke.

Amiga FTW.

This is more than provoking...  :oops:

This is my personal point of view as an Amigan Point of View in an Amigan related chat section...

And being a Amiga complete business site, then another person who is clearly a macintosh user came here abruptly saying that the coolest things he had seen this week is his new brand MacBook that gives him more appeal than any Amiga he had...

(Are we sure this person really got any Amiga?)

So I am free to answering to Mac users as they deserve to be threaten...

It is they provoking us Amigans here on OUR SITE...

I had had provoked if I had said that Mac Luzers are Loozers on a Mac site...

But if you noticed that, we are on Amiga site, so I am not guilty...

And I am not guilty twice...

Because:

1) First! I had not started this thread by gloryfing Macintoshes, but just answering to some Mac users acting as agent provocateur...

2) Second! And perhaps beacuse Mac users really are l00zers forever noobz and they stink anytime. :lol: :lol: :lol:

And it is not their guilty... After all they are only Mac used-users, so being sucking it is natural for them... :-P

Aw? Apple usews? Poow widdle s(n)obbing cweatuwes!

Amiga Rulezz! 8-)













 :-P  :lol:

[Raffaele]

@ Mods

Anyone around who could give this guy a warning.  Thinks he deserves it.  Hes sounding more like starke by the second.

Yes I agree...

I admit I deserve a warn...

But also I ask the moderators to move this thread on Alternative Operating Systems section of the forum where it should stay since the beginning, or even if they can close this thread as it celebrates other platforms in spite of the policy of the forum site regarding Amiga related topics.  :rtfm:

I am waiting for any warn, and I am waiting here firmly and in complete honesty.

[Raffaele]

Jambalah wrote:

While vaste majority here is nuthing than a bunch of nostalgics who are here on Amiga.org to cry about Amiga, and to ask suggestions on how they can emulate retrogaming. Pathetic...

Gosh! ...and I've just purchased a second A3000D.... :-(

So you are not in the nostalgic bunch and you got all my respect for your cool A3000D... :-D

The coolest thing I've seen this week is a refrigerator
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Well, now THAT sounds quite more cool and far more useful than a Macintosh...  :lol:  :-P

[Raffaele]

pyrre wrote:
@ raffaele
You clearly hate the mac and its users.
However, have you ever tried a mac?

I tried Mac OS upto 7 on original machines and emulated on Amiga and it never impressed me...

A cooperative multitasking OS overestimated by newspapers and mac-boy evangelists...

I used Macintoshes at University (there is a student room full of iMacs G3 here) and these computers are all PPG G3 clocked at 600 MHz running MacOS 9...

Something like this:



This wannabe OS really slowed down the PPC 600 and made such a powerful processor to seat on its own a**...

And I asked to myself why this OS was soooo slooow...

Well... So good was the so called MacOS upto 9...

I wonder why they do not left PPC in favour of Intel processors in the time of MacOS 9... Such a turtle OS had had received sure benefit if running on an intel processor running at twice clock than PPC.

Also I found frustrating using a standard italian Macintosh keyboard because all Mac italian keyboards are QZERTY as ancient typewriters... What a kind of strange fashion! LOL! :roll:

And the MacOS keyboards had only "Backspace" key and lacked of "CANC" key :crazy:

The Mac was not mine (It belonged to the university), as if I were were a "desperate Macinthosh housewuser" I had bought a standard multistandard USB Logitech keyboard (more cheap than a standard italian QWERTY layout based Mac ORIGINAL keyboard) because I heard that fortunately even MacOS 9 could had used it...

Sure USB Logitech Keyboard had the benfits of correct computer keyboard layout with all keys at their place...

And I tried various times Apples MacOS X with Intel Core Duo at Apple corners in electronic stores...

Again nothing impressive except than Eyecandies...

I wonder if all the power of an Intel core duo is used to keep a graphical interface enough speed to let MacDock zoom on icons?

I tried some applications such as garageband and the tool to make photos with internal camera...

Again nothing impressive...

But honestly I find garageband was a tool enough worthing the 120 euro of MacOS price...

Enough worthing for a Mac user, because programs like Audio Evolution on Amiga costs just a fraction of 120 euro...

Sure I found Standard Windows XP installation at a first use on newer machines more light and more performing than MacOS X even in mouse movements and response...

Ah yes... You can also spot any Bluetooth device hanging around the Macintosh within X meters in the electronic store...

HOW COOL, HOW COOL!

Very useful if you want to send a message to a beautiful girl who left open bluetooth on her cell phone.

Is just that the MacOS X power?

Did it deserves such an amount of Core duo power? :crazy:

Seeing how the icon of my usb pendrive showed up on the desktop.
I got a sudden flashback to my good old amiga days.

My Pegasos reads USB pens too... So what?

And it gives me same Amiga appeal than old days on a modern hardware with decent OS.

[Raffaele]

persia wrote:
Amiga = Retro computing.

That's a given, we all love to play with the Amiga much as you would tinker with a classic automobile.  It's fun, it's a hobby, get over it.

We all have our favourites in current technology, and we seem to be fairly evenly divided between MS Windows and OS X, with a few Linux folks thrown in.  That's a different thing entirely.

Fourteen years ago the company that produced the Amiga died and it's been up to us, the retro-enthusiasts, to keep the Amiga alive.  THe Amiga is never going to compete with Mac/PC/Linux and Mac/PC/Linux are never going to compete with the Amiga, those days ended way back in the last century...

If you believes that, why are you hanging around on Amiga sites?

We real loyal Amigans are more often seeing to the future than crying on a glorious past...

It is a long road ahead to catch again the mainstream, but all three Amiga systems, MorphOS, AmigaOS and AROS are doing little but significant steps.

That counts, and not nostalgia...

[Raffaele]

odin wrote:
Another cool thing I saw was a burning heap of anti-Apple-zealots.

Well defending amiga fierce from ravenous rampage of Windoze users and Macholic users is just self defence of the platform we choosen, and not zealotry...

We perfectly know what Amiga lacks, and we are figthing for a more better stable and usable platform.

Now it is too simple and offending if anybody came here on Amiga.org and saying you/he have/has seen coolest things on other platforms, just because on other platforms there are enough money to develop coolest thiongs easy...

It is easy to develop coolest things on Windows, if you hav 95% of the market and Micro$oft behind your shoulders...

It is easy for Apple to develop new machines as all its revenues are coming from IPOD market...