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Whoa, hallo Gunnar, nice to see you again Another possibility would be to get a hold of Playstation to DB9 converter, and then you can have truly new joypads. And quality ones too.But, if you really need native Amiga DB9 joysticks (for testing purposes or something) you can still check Ebay. New (unused)joysticks pop up from time to time, although at a higher price. Also there are (near) mint pieces. So...Tschüss !