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Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« on: August 24, 2010, 08:05:11 AM »
I think the best that could ever happen for the AMIGA community would be freeing the AMIGA Kickstart.

If believe if Kickstart would be free this will give AMIGA a new momentum.

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Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 08:27:41 AM »
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Why do you need it free? Just be abdle to purchase it for say $20 would fine, but you can't do even that.


You are right. That you can not buy the ROMs at all is a major problem.
Its not even clear who has the right to the OS at all.

I've read that the rights to Kickstart and the OS were not fully legally licensed by AMIGA Inc.
There was a German courtcase once stating that the rigth to the OS were not sold in the gateway sales.

It could be that Kickstart and AMIGA OS are in a legal limbo with no real owner.

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Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 08:42:56 AM »
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The judge also didn't claim that it wasn't part of the sale/auction, only the that he could find no evidence that it was ....


I know that several entities tried to license AMIGA OS from AMIGA Inc.
But this failed.
During these discussion AMIGA Inc was ask to provide some proof that they actually own the rights to the OS - which they never did.

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Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 06:30:04 PM »
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They don`t belong to you. Simple.


Its not that simple.

Imagine some houses on an island close to the coast.
And there is a bridge connecting the island with the coast/ main land.

The people living on this island is our AMIGA community.
The bridge is the OS.

The people on the island need to go to the mainland for the doctor, to get to work etc.
They work be happy to pay a "fee" to use the bridge.

But the company building the bridge went bankrupt and no one knows who owns it no.

This situation is our situation.
People would love to pay a fee to use the bridge - but they can't.

In real live the bridge would be made accessible for the people someway or another.
But not for the AMIGA community.

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Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 07:08:07 PM »
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The OS and Kickstart ROMs are available from Cloanto, who has a legal right to sell them.  Go out, buy Amiga Forever. it's a great product, and be happy with your legal ROMs and OS.


Yes, that's a great solution for people that want to abandon their AMIGA HW i want to  emulate an AMIGA on PC-HW.

Its like offering a new bridge to another island - all you need to do is abandon your house and build a new house on the another island.

Unfortunately the people who like their island and want to continue living there are abandoned.

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Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2010, 07:27:52 PM »
I think the situation is like this:

* There are people which like their AMIGA HW and would love to get an updated fixed Kickstart for it.

* There are programmer skilled to update the OS.
Bugs could be fixed. Features could be added.
And all could be cleanly repacked into Kickstart Version "Whatever".
Technical all possible and this could have been done years ago.

And could this be done YES or NO?