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Offline zudobug

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« on: June 10, 2004, 11:27:39 AM »
I agree with the facts that have been spliced in to this. It's a bitter pill to swallow but there it is. The opinions which make up the majority of the post are just that, and I don't (want to?) agree with them. Let me break it down:

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1. The Amiga, once the watermark of multimedia and Commodore's last hope for a piece of the desktop, no longer has a seat in the consumer marketplace. The tinkerers have Linux, creative types MacOS X, and the suits Windows.


Fact! I don't think anyone can seriously argue that any of this is false. Commodore's Amiga no longer has a seat in the consumer marketplace. Those other OS's do exist and cater for different markets.

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Forget about the enterprise/server/embedded/game markets, too. AmigaOS will not bring with it distinguishing characteristics, features, or marketing muscle of any significance.


Opinion! And it's possibly true that Amiga Inc/Hyperion/KMOS (whoever) has not the marketing muscle. But the jibe at the characteristics and features of the OS is a little below the belt and possibly a "troll line" intended purely to upset.

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2. The current miniscule AmigaOS market demand is fueled by overzealous "old timers", nostalgic for a brand and the emotion it invoked in earlier years, college lads, and borderline infantile internationals who yearn for the revival of their gaming machine.


Erm... Dare I say Fact. But this is very badly worded. I don't think this is such a negative thing either, although YourPal obviously does. There is currently only a miniscule AmigaOS market demand - can't argue with that. And with the exception of the final category, which could be more kindly worded, that seems about right.

The rest of that paragraph is fairly insulting opinion so I wont bother quoting it. Why be humiliated by once having good feelings for your Amiga? It's true maybe sometimes people get a little over-emotional, but that's understandable when looking at the way computing is going, and the way things could have been had Commodore not screwed up.

Point 3 isn't really a point based on any fact, it just makes the prediction that no-one will invest in the new OS and no outsiders will care. But I thought there was some commercial interest? I guess we'll have to wait and see. A good thing about the Amiga legacy is that a lot of outsiders were once insiders who moved on. If OS4 revives that good feeling and spirit, I don't find it too fantastical to believe some of those people will come back. I guess it's up to the community to spread the word and see where it goes.

I must say it seems a bit odd that we get messages like this just as things seem to be progressing. And a sudden influx of what appears to be trolling and just plain sillyness. It could be part of a campaign to dishearten members of the community and at the same time put off anyone searching the web for - this thing they've heard about a revival of their old favourite computer platform. Let's hope they aren't put off.

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2004, 11:37:00 PM »
That's great. But what do you achieve by posting such negative views in an amiga discussion forum, used mainly by the sort of people you feel such contempt for?

I don't think you're going to change any minds here. And even if you do, it won't have any effect on the people working on OS4 or new Amiga or Amiga inspired h/w.

All you're doing is pissing people off.

It's obvious you've given some thought to your arguments, and I even agree with some of it, but you are directing it at the wrong people. It's just gonna start more fights, and incase you haven't noticed, we don't need any more.

We are not hurting anyone by keeping the dream alive (except maybe each other.) So either join in with something more positive or leave us be.

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Re: Let the "Amiga Spirit" rest in peace.
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2004, 11:51:23 PM »
Sure.

I don't mean to sound so miserable.

I can believe that you are trying to help in one way or another. But I've seen a lot of people say similar things purely to rough up a few feathers. So I take some convincing.

As I suggested, I agree in part to some of the things you said. But if I totally agreed with you, personally I wouldn't bother coming here at all! Which is why I have a hard time understanding what brings you here.

That's all.

Anyway, take care. Don't take the insults too personally. You gotta admit it's understandable that some people are reacting the way they are. But I'm sure if you try being a little more constructive and less insulting you'll find we are mostly a decent bunch of zealots.

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