Bill McEwen not appearing at AMIwest

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KennyR:

So I'm not attacking AInc because I've been 'induced to say so'. I criticised both AInc and Genesi a lot in the past, when I was determined to get an A1 and to hell with the Pegasos. I attacked AInc then because they are harming the Amiga, and I still do now.

PS: I have never, to my knowledge, attacked Hyperion or Eyetech. At least they are actually providing a product.

(This reply isn't totally directed at KennyR. but what he said sparked a few braincells and this is the result.)

Why attack anyone? What do you get out of it?

I think the point that is being made here is that criticism is fine, and Amiga Inc deserve it. But what is going on here is a little more than criticism. In some cases it's plain rude and uncivil.

Looking through the forum I see every Amiga Inc related thread (and a lot of the others) full of people (including KennyR and others present here) attacking Amiga Inc. Most of the people doing this are pegasos owners and genesi supporters. So no surprise some folk may reason there is an agenda behind the crap.

Old arguments are dug up over and over and it's boring. Do you really think everyone would forget about Amiga Inc's wrong doings if you didn't keep reminding us?

The most annoying thing is that among all the rubbish on this site there are some intelligent and rational things being said that I am interested to read, but it's getting harder and harder to find. Some people are giving up and going elsewhere. What do you expect?

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KennyR,

Thanks for the reply, you made many interesting points. This is the sort of constructive criticism I have no qualms with reading. :-)

It's not worth me banging on about things I have already mentioned in my previous post, I think I made my point quite clearly. But I must address this:

I think saying that it is boring or stupid to criticise is just one of the forms of defensiveness I outlined above.

Of course I think you are right, criticism is fine. But I think it is boring and stupid to repeatedly attack. That's the thing I don't understand. Why attack? Are the more vocal people really so personally and emotionally involved? Why can't we keep things civil?

Also, the anti-amiga inc threads I have read contain many personal attacks aimed at and coming from amiga inc supporters/cheerleaders. If such contempt is felt between the Pro and the Anti, why try and help these people? I say let them follow their beloved name and suffer their own fate!

I am not a name follower. I'm simply a fan of the classic miggy keeping up-to-date with Amiga news. And if at some point in the future MorphOS or OS4 seems to be something I might like to own, I'll make the necessary purchases. ;-) At the moment I am playing about with AROS, which seems very cool. :-)

You suggest I (and people who feel like me) stay out of the threads that contain attacks, trolls and flames. On the surface this seems like a wise idea. But what does that leave? There are so few peaceful threads for rational discussion. And I'd miss interesting posts like these.

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oh yeah...

Most of these people wouldn't care if I insulted Microsoft in the same way - my avatar pees on them and I've had no complaints of being a troll yet for that!

...And you'll get no complaints from me.  ;-)
But M$ is a truely evil, dominating multi-national corporation that breaks laws and gets away with it to keep their monopoly. We should unite and bring down these bastards. But if these forums were polluted with messages like this in the same quantity as anti-amiga inc and anti-genesi comments, I think it would get annoying.