A little rebuff to global warming

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Last night I was typing up my youngest sisters homework - she wrote it all out in long hand and I typed it as she is slow and it had to be in this morning.

It was about Global Warming. She had to make a case for and against the Theory. While the Earth has warmed and cooled significantly over the last 10,000 years(for example Vines were often grown by monks in the middle ages in the most unlikely of places such as Northumbria) the greatest increase in temperature happened in the 1950's. We are polluting this planet - you cant dispute that - and the oil will run out. Thats two reasons to start taking a mature and adult response to the problems which we are brewing up. When the oil runs out we are screwed. You cant very well mine for Oil on the moon either - there is none there - infact there is no other planet yet discovered with the black stuff - and you'd use more fuel trying to retrieve it.

[Bobsonsirjonny]

I'm having to babysit her this week.. Drag her to school each morning etc.. To be late for work and get the grilling by those in charge. Yet they go off cos they need to take their cars to the garage etc..

Its quite funny. I knocked on her bedroom door at 6.00am - she didnt get up till 7.30.. I ironed her shirt for School - it was perfect. Even burnt myself doing it. She grabbed her breakfast and ate it in the car en route to her School. As soon as I dropped her off - she gave me a totally blank look, didnt say goodbye or anything. She Untucked her shirt, tucked her tie in between the third and forth button. Messed her hair up - and ignoring me did this weird walk through the main doors.

Its hard to describe the walk. It was kinda like a cross between MC Hammer and Micheal Jackson - had a sort of skip, drag thing to it..

Ah the joys of trying to be cool.. hehe :-D

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Tigger wrote:

Bobsonsirjonny wrote:
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It was about Global Warming. She had to make a case for and against the Theory. While the Earth has warmed and cooled significantly over the last 10,000 years(for example Vines were often grown by monks in the middle ages in the most unlikely of places such as Northumbria) the greatest increase in temperature happened in the 1950's. We are polluting this planet - you cant dispute that - and the oil will run out.

I appreciate you proving my point Robert.  Over 70% of the temperature increase in the 20th century happened by 1954.  Most of the CO2 increase of the 20th century happened post 1954.   Do you now see that blaming the CO2 increase for the small temperature increase post 1954 and saying the big pre-1954 increase was a natural phenomena (ie what the IPCC consolidated report says) is bad science??  And you are right, about the last 10K years, grapes for wine were grown in parts of England which wont support them now (too cold), the Viking settlements in Greenland are now under ice, I'm pretty sure they didnt build them that way.  
    -Tig

Sorry, the point I was trying to make was that regardless of whether MAN MADE global warming is fact or fiction, the climate is changing. We are also polluting this planet - you cant dispute that, and in time the oil will run out - so we should start to look at alternatives ASAP. If the planet gets very cold in places, those places may need more energy - and where is it gonna come from. Its finite.

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Fade wrote:
@ Bobsonsirjonny
"If the planet gets very cold in places, those places may need more energy - and where is it gonna come from."
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It's harder to clean up, but coal!

.. which is finite.

Ok, so if we go down the coal route - and we in the UK have plenty of coal left sitting in the hills (particularly in south wales) we will have to start using the energy more efficiently. Also the cost of Coal may very well go through the roof. It wasn't the cheapest thing to extract in the firts place. I often think did they close the mines so that in the future they have access to all this lovely coal which will then be worth a fortune.

As for the clean up - you look at the south wales valleys 20 years ago and they were horrible dirty places. Now they have been allowed to turn back to their natural beauty. However, due to the lack of jobs now in these areas (mining was a major employer) the valleys have become full of greedy, scabby Charvers..

[Bobsonsirjonny]

0.2 in global terms is huge. 1% increase and thats a whole load of life and eco systems {bleep}ted.

We do have an impact on this planet. Its a FACT. Whether global warming is partly or entrely man made is still TBA - but we are chopping up the rain forests - the earths lungs. We are releasing untold amounts of {bleep} into the air. We are filling the place up with land fill. You wouldnt piss in your bath water before you wash..