SCSI card reader questions....

[Motormouth]

So just a little more followup, for my A3000D I found this today:

1 - 3.1 HDToolBox worked with multiple slots and CF, SD and PCcard slot
(although it could not read the size of the media upon scan)

2 - Now, HDInstTool (which is more recent and updated) would only report back 'unsupported' whenever I tried the CF or SD slot. PCcard slot is fine.

I bought one of these SCSI card readers from mechy a few months ago, just got around attaching it to my A3000 with a WD -08 in it.  

Also on the scsi chain are two internal drive id 0 and 1, The card reader is on the external scsi and set to id 2, I also have a external cd rom on id 3.

to get the multiple LUNS working one needs to set the access the nvram in the A3000.  I used SetBatt from fred fish disk 535, Probably can get this from aminet.

Use SetBatt to turn multiple luns on.  In both of my a3000s the default was multiple luns off.

I still cannot get the a3000 to autoboot of the CF card.  I have to use mounter (comes with 3.9) or SCSImount to get the partitions to mount.

someone mentioned needing to have the card reader set as and internal device to get it to card reader to autoboot.  This should really not matter, but I have seen stranger things with scsi devices.  I would love to get my a3000 to autoboot with the card reader,

I have two gvp scsi cards, a trumpcard, and a dataflyer.  I will see if can get these to work with the card reader.

[Motormouth]

I know this is a old thread but just an update on Mechy's scsi card reader.

Unlike the autoboot and mounting issues with a3000
both of my gvp scsi cards (2000 HC+8 and A500 HD 8+) worked flawlessly.  Full automount and autoboot.

I will check the trumpcard and dataflyer

[Motormouth]

SCSI / LUN support on the 3000 internal SCSI may depend on the ROM version in use...

mmmm...

I was able to get the card reader to work with multiple luns both as an internal scsi device and an external device.  The problem is I cannot get them to automount or autoboot,  I have to use mounter or scsi mounter.

I am using  a WD -08 scsi chip with 3.1 roms and 3.9 updated to the unofficial boing bag 4 and a v3.2 a3640.  I wonder if the softbooted rom that comes with 3.9 bb2 or above is giving it problems, or even the 3640.... (eventhough it has never been a problem before)

I will try the card reader in an unexpanded stock 25mhz 68030 backup a3000.  The only updates stuff in it are the WD -08 scsi controller, 3.1 roms and 16 megs of 32bit fast ram.


As for other scsi controllers (all tested in an a2000 with 3.1 roms and fusion forty 68040 board).

I was able to get a trumpcard pro working with the card reader to autoboot and automount but only with lun 0 (eventhough it is suppose to support multiple luns)

I was unable to get the dataflyer scsi to work at all.   This is odd since it uses a similar amd scsi controller as the trumpcard.  However this controller has always been finicky.

as stated in an earlier post the gvpscsi (both in the a2000 and the a500) cards worked flawlessly....  multiple lun, autoboot, and automount .

[Motormouth]

I will try the card reader in an unexpanded stock 25mhz 68030 backup a3000.  The only updates stuff in it are the WD -08 scsi controller, 3.1 roms and 16 megs of 32bit fast ram.

Well what do you know.....  The card reader works flawlessly in my backup a3000.

mmmm....  Is the problem with my main a3000 hardware or software related?

[Motormouth]

I'm having problems with mine in an A3000.  I have a 1 GB CF card in the CF slot.  I can see the card in HDToolBox and can read the attributes and partition it.  However, I can't see it in the OS at all so I can't format it and when I reboot, I get a Guru error.  My OS is v3.1.  Any hints?  I have to remove the card in order to boot into 3.1 on my SCSI hard drive.

As mechy said (and someone else earlier in the thread),  I suggest partitioning and formatting your CF in the pcmcia lun 0 postition with a CF to pcmcia adapter.  Once this has been perform, try the CF card in the lun 1 postion (CF slot).  This seems to work best for my a3000s.

[Motormouth]

Well what do you know.....  The card reader works flawlessly in my backup a3000.

mmmm....  Is the problem with my main a3000 hardware or software related?

I found out what the problem is with my main a3000,  it is not the 3640 or any of the zorro III or my prometheus.  The problem appears to be an  interaction between my 500 meg digital hard drive and the card reader.  

I typically have several scsi devices, thank you WD for the -08 controller;  two physical hard drives (a 500 meg quantum maverick, a 500 meg digital), a cd rom drive, a zip drive, and a scanner.

As I tried the card reader and removing scsi devices one my one,  I found that the scsi card reader will not automount or autoboot with the digital hard drive in the scsi train.  I tried all kinds of scsi configurations one internal, one external (both terminated);  both internal, both external, different drives at the end (ie terminated).  

The scsi card reader seems to work fine with the quantum maverick, and all the other scsi devices.

With the digital hard drive and the card reader in the train, I have to mount the card reader with mounter or scsi mounter.  Very Odd.

[Motormouth]

Ok, so I bought the PCMCIA adapter and a CF card from Mechy and tried it with my A3000D tonight (running 3.1). Here is what I did:
 
1. Insert CF card into adapter and insert into PCMCIA slot. Boot up.
2. Went to HDToolbox and read the configuration. It correctly saw that it was 2 GB. I created a 400 MB partition for the heck of it. I turned autoboot off on the card for now.
3. The OS saw the card find and called it SDH0: and allowed me to format it.
4. I turned the 3000 off, pulled the PCMCIA adapter, removed the CF card, and put it in the CF slot on the reader.
5. When I booted, the OS did not see the formatted card. I went into HDToolbox and the card was detected and everything.
 
Am I doing something wrong, or is it likely an issue with my SCSI chip or something of that nature? I had to turn autoboot off on the card because the system couldn't boot to the hard drive and OS if I didn't (don't know how to set boot priority in AmigaOS).

Does the CF card boot in the (with adapter) pcmcia lun 0?

When the CF card is in the CF slot lun 1 can you mount it with scsi mounter(can get from aminet) or mounter(comes with OS 3.9)

[Motormouth]

I'm on 3.1, so I'm not sure if that might introduce some issues.  I also don't know what SCSI chip revision I have.
 
I'll have to check on the device numbers, but I think the reader is a lower device number (reader is device 2 IIRC and the drive is 5 or 6).
 
I appreciate the offer to return it, but I also have an A2000 I can use it in so I don't think I will need to.  

3.1 should be fine.  You can mount with scsi mounter.
IMO 3.5 and 3.9 are not the big jumps that 3.1 was over 2.x and 2.x was over 1.x.

3.1 can do just about every thing 3.9.  3.9 is nice because it is in one CD,
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