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What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« on: December 17, 2011, 01:21:52 AM »
Which nm manufacturing process has been used to produce the Agnus/Denise/Paula chips in Amiga 500..?

And what transistor count and die size is it?

(The scanning thread seems to went about something else)
 

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Re: What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 03:53:56 AM »
I wonder if a digital camera can get enough detail from a 1.5 µm chip to deduce logic?
 

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Re: What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 03:08:59 PM »
I wonder what nm process the AGA chipset might have used..
 

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Re: What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 03:44:32 PM »
If anyone knows the transistor count and die size. It might be possible to do some estimation.
 

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Re: What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 01:29:42 AM »
Only the photographic equipment to get the image remains then .. ;)

> 3 µm should be doable.
 

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Re: What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2011, 03:06:05 PM »
Have stuff, won't do. Is probably the situation ;)
 

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Re: What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 08:15:21 PM »
I hope others try the decapping and photographing. Post-processing can be distributed among amiga fans.. ;)
 

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Re: What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 04:20:53 PM »
Any decap progress? ;)

How does one interpretate an image like this anyway?
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Re: What nm process used for Agnus/Denise/Paula etc?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2012, 10:35:00 PM »
"so there's a 68000 compatible emulation mode for the PA-RISC." -  cool!

Development path:
"We've had a lot of work spent on designing new instructions which allow us to have really fantastic 3D performance,"
(AAA + HP-PA-150 in a single chip)

Guess this why there's so little.. OMG-machines out there:
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It's a matter of ensuring that there's some vision at the top of the company in order to let something like this go through. Commodore has too often in the past been in the situation of having designed very cool products which just at the very end of the life cycle after we've spent all the money on them don't actually make it to market because the people at the top have a lack of vision and when they see the finished product say "Oh no, they wouldn't wanna buy that." But I don't think we'll see that with the potential buyers.

The core business?
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he best of the resources that Commodore's always had, basically designing our own chips rather than going out to someone else and just using an off-the-shelf chip.