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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #269 from previous page: January 05, 2013, 07:34:05 AM »
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;721260
Biggest reason why I will never own Minimig because it is completely burned in my brain and will not change is nothing more than UAE running on ARM. However, FPGA is completely custom based, real chipset, in my opinion the new and latest Amiga upgrade had Commodore continued in the line of 68k Amiga. Is why I did preorder for FPGA and did not spend a dime buying Minimig even if it is out already for sale.

Minimig is a re-implemention in FPGA just as MikeJ's FPGA Replay. The difference is that the CPU is in ASIC and RAM is less etc.

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A cobbled together A1200 gets to use 128MB (possibly 256MB) Radeon gfx cards which there is no way to do with the Replay.

The FPGA can interface directly to PCI 33/32 and other interfaces can be handled by added suitable transceiver chip or upgrading FPGA with onboard ones (Rocketport etc).

Quote from: ChaosLord;721285
If you don't like your SCSI hard drive you are allowed to buy a new quiet, cool, fast SCSI hard disk for your old Amiga.  Or you could just get a cheap silent slow SD card like a lot of ppl do.  Or you could use a new slow IDE drive.

Your SCSI controller is likely faster and smoother than whatever Replay has to offer. (Which I cannot remember right now.)

Complaining about SCSI is a really silly thing to do. :)

The present drives are almost all either horrible expensive SAS drives which will not interface with Amiga or S-ATA ones that will neither. So you will still need to make do with the SCSI-1 SE narrow stuff that were common with Amiga. Present flashmemory (SD) will beat ordinary Amiga SCSI hardware on Mbyte/s basis.

The reason I bought SCSI is because it has a sound electrical interface, clean hardware API with well defined orthogonal commands, reliable etc. Something P-ATA never managed. Infact S-ATA drives are still second rate when it comes to build quality that's why SAS drives are more expensive. BUT with RAID or ZFS this issue is negated..
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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #270 on: January 05, 2013, 02:30:33 PM »
8371 ASIC is a great OCS emulator ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #271 on: January 05, 2013, 06:17:52 PM »
Please discuss the non re-implementation issues in the "FPGA for dummies" thread.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #272 on: January 13, 2013, 12:39:05 PM »
Chipset mask and routing is copyrighted. Their function is not but may be patented. However they are so old that the patents have expired.

The implementation in FPGA is a functionally equalient without using the original masks.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #273 on: January 13, 2013, 10:15:08 PM »
Quote from: gaula92;722308
I haven't seen any arcade, Atari 8 bit or ST cores to use it :(


There doesn't exist any such core asfaik. So just fire up Xilinx ISE and you can make one most proberbly from gluing together existing HDL-cores.

Perhaps the ARM software has issues with a non-Amiga core?

@mikej, How large price difference per board would it be to produce a 1000 batch instead of 100? that also open up for direct sourceing of the BOM from the suppliers.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #274 on: January 14, 2013, 12:59:25 AM »
Quote from: mikej;722350
1000 is still small numbers, Xilinx etc will not deal with you directly unless you are much bigger than that.


The thinking was more on the support circuitry like eeprom, resistors, mosfet, regulators etc.
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #275 on: January 14, 2013, 02:13:50 AM »
Rights can be bought.

Shall we call them copyright trolls? ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #276 on: January 14, 2013, 11:54:45 AM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;722425
rigged it so we can't EVER even get the v5 coldfires.


How?
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #277 on: January 14, 2013, 01:44:37 PM »
Coldfire is supposedly faster or could be clocked faster because some overhead was removed so that a more "raw" core remained. Corporate decisions are not known throughout the history for their wisdom ;)

(Like when Kodak decided to keep the digital camera technology only for their high end segment in order to preserve the lucrative film manufacture business, and were then competed into bankruptcy)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #278 on: January 14, 2013, 03:49:06 PM »
Quote from: psxphill;722449
started reusing opcodes


Ouch!
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #279 on: January 14, 2013, 06:54:11 PM »
Quote from: JimDrew;722477
Their only concern was compatibility and how it was perceived.  When I showed them the A4000 running circles around their Mac Quadras their concerns were centered around the fact the Amiga was a better architecture.  :)


Perception, perception and looks. Guess that summarize Apple ;)

Next core: Macintosh Quadra 630 (68040 at 40 MHz) :D
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #280 on: January 15, 2013, 12:00:00 AM »
Is there any MacOS-68k clone like AROS for AmigaOS ? ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #281 on: January 15, 2013, 09:37:21 AM »
Perhaps the prices for an ASIC spin has sunken?
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #282 on: January 16, 2013, 12:22:06 AM »
Is the PCB layout and BOM for the daughterboard complete at this time?
(production complete that is)

What's the minimum batch you can order?
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #283 on: January 26, 2013, 03:36:55 AM »
Quote from: Fahrenheit
060/Ethernet/USB Daughter Board coming in 2012 !


Maybe not? ;)
 

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Re: FPGA Replay Board
« Reply #284 on: January 28, 2013, 02:54:17 PM »
Quote from: mikej;724270
The ARM will re-init the board and file system if the chip is reprogrammed, so I can build and test very rapidly now without taking the SD card out.


Does this mean that if you saved anything on a virtual .ADF floppy on the flashcard those contents will be lost at re-init?