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Old-timer looking for A1200 hardware help
« on: May 05, 2025, 10:48:41 PM »
I'm in the process of trying to ressurect my A1200 tower, which has been sat in the loft for many years. I'm looking for some tips and advice to refresh my knowledge

The system is an A1200 2b / Blizzard 68060 with the scsi kit / original 5v mediator / 3.1 roms and fast ata board. The hard disk seems to have been the main fatality, so I'm slowly getting it set up again.

I've managed to get os 3.9 reinstalled with the help of an emergency disk, I've got the voodoo3 card functiong with an old 2.0) version of picasso96 and fairly old mediator drivers. I've yet to get it on the network or bring in any updated software - I intend to update the mediator drivers and picasso 96 once I can.

What I've had issues with are the mixer library and the ata3.device driver.  Questions I have are:

After installing the mediator mm cd and update the Amiga will not boot - I managed to remember the whole startup-sequence thing, and after removing the mixer entry from user-startup it now boots and the voodoo3 is working. What should I try to debug the mixer issue? Is this related to AHI?  I've a feeling I may have some sort of mashup of different AHI software after the reinstall and install from the mm cd, and possibly the incorrect sound driver.

After installing the ata3.driver from a floppy disk I have the machine also failed to boot. Again this was a case of removing the entry from the startup-sequence to boot again.
Back in the day I had a powerflyer in another amiga 1200 so said floppy disk could have come with that, could it be the case I simply have the "wrong" ata3.driver? The board I have simply says "fast ide controller" on it - is there a way to tell which one it is? (I dont see anything in the early boot menu for this board).

I'm sure I'll get to the bottom of it, but would appreciate some tips and memory jogging!

Also a lot seems to have changed in 20 or so years! New accelerator boards and now another branch of os 3.1! Am I wasting my time on this setup?
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Re: Old-timer looking for A1200 hardware help
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2025, 11:26:28 PM »
Thanks. Unfortunately tonight I went to boot it up and its not booting.

Annoying as the voodoo card was at least working.

Now if I comment out loadmondrvs in the startup-sequence I can get it to boot, but running the voodoo monitor causes a lockup.

Is there any way to debug a monitor loading up?

All the boards are showing up in pciinfo, so I guess it could be some sort of hardware fault.

I had installed some mm cd updates, but ve tried going back and no change. Os it possible the eclectic mix of  drivers is the issue?
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Re: Old-timer looking for A1200 hardware help
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2025, 03:45:44 PM »
Thanks, yes I'm hoping I just messed up the Picasso install somehow by adding the updates.

The ones I installed were MM_CD1.23 and Mediator_UP37 - I'm unsure what the differences are between those updates, they were from back in 2003 and I'm sure the were the last ones I used. It was late at night when I did that and I can't for the life of me remember if I rebooted and it was working or if I just shut down afterwards.

Last night I tried uninstalling P96 and starting over but no luck.

To answer your questions; yes I have a "voodoo" monitor in devs:monitors and I also tried recreating that afresh from the Cybervision 3d one and updating the tooltypes - no luck.

Being a homebrew case the PCI edge connections have never been properly aligned, but it did always work before; I've just disassembled it and reseated the fastata, mediator and sorted that so they are now better positioned.

pciinfo is complete for most cards - I have Realtek nic and that is showing unknown. Hard for me to get the output because it's currently isolated - maybe I can take some photos tonight.

Could you please elaborate what you mean when you say "vendors list in S draw"?

P96Mode did show all the different modes for the voodoo card. When it initially stopped working it still showed them, but the mode I was using changed to "inactive" (I think that;s what it said)

I know that's all probably a bit of a garbled reply, hopefully I'll be a better "help asker" when I've had another go.

Will report back after trying the re-seated system. Thanks for the help, much appreciated!
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Re: Old-timer looking for A1200 hardware help
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2025, 10:40:40 PM »
Apologies for the late response, life got in the way! Thanks for all the version information too; I did have vendors.txt but hadnt run med config.

Whilst hunting for a CD with mui on it, I stumbled across a backup file!

The system is booting off the backup which has various things like the ata3 driver and ahi enabled, however as soon as I try to use the vodoo3 it crashes.

Now, I should be on the last known stable setup, I've now noticed sometimes the voodoo3 shows up and sometimes it does not.  I'm currently investigating the psu its an old AT one that has been rewitred.  Will let you know how I get on,  hopefully I can find a source for a new AT psu, or a suitable converter.
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Re: Old-timer looking for A1200 hardware help
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2025, 06:59:04 AM »
Had chance to take another look last night.  It sems if I  move the voodoo3 into the first pci slot it is recognised always, but in the 4th slot only occasionally.

I can now conistently get the machine to boot and load the workbench screen on the voodoo3, but as soon as I see the screen on the voodoo3 the machine freezes.

I wondered if it could be a power issue, but +5v is stable at 5.06v and +12v stable at 11.92v; the latter seemed a bit low to me but I have read that's within spec.

I'm pretty certain it is a hardware issue, since the workbench install is a restore of my working setup back on the day.

Could be that the voodoo3 is failing.

Had anyone had similar issues and resolved them?
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Re: Old-timer looking for A1200 hardware help
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2025, 10:54:13 PM »
Pulled out a can of serviceol 10 and a toothbrush and it's up. In all it's 800x600 glory - thats all the monitor in the garage can handle, it usually just sees car diagnostics.

Now, i need to update some software I guess. Is there a modern ssllibrary?

What else is new in 20 years?
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Re: Old-timer looking for A1200 hardware help
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2025, 01:00:38 PM »
Thanks. I used to use it to listen to music. Do you know of there is a sama client that works with smb2 or smb3? Looks like the old smbfs I used to use only works with smb1
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