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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« on: January 28, 2011, 09:45:20 AM »
Eventually decided to vote 'yes'. *Not* because I would wish Trevor (or others) bad things (why should I?). But I don't think it is a sustainable business model and the quicker pipe dreams come to an end the saner. It is überexpensive, it is strongly delayed, it uses an EOL mid class very rare cpu - to sum it up: it is the wrong approach.
Or to phrase my intention why I voted 'yes' in German: "Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne Ende" (It's better to make a painful break than draw out the agony).
But if the X1000 eventually arrives and sells in significant numbers I'll take a bow.

Edit: to avoid misunderstandings: I voted 'yes' in the manner of a *quick* end. I am pretty sure the X1000 project is a desaster and will fail eventually (actually it is failed already IMHO: delayed, expensive, bad design choice). The quicker it comes to a complete end the better for proceeding then on greener grounds. If it takes ages and ages it will only bind capacity and eventually yield nowhere anyway. Hence the 'yes' is meant in a most constructive way.

I like to note that I see things different for Acube's business model: While I have lots of critics for them in particular details I think they are some kind of on track. The products get better and they seem to be rather grounded.

All in all I think it would be best if OS4 jumps to x86 or ARM. And that's true for MorphOS, too. Albeit there are some nice ppc announcemnts by Freescale staying ppc on the long term is at best "problematic".
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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 10:33:23 AM »
Quote from: AmigaNG;610102

 
I'm pleased to see so many not just wanting the idea or project to just fail, even if they think it completely daft/nuts/crazy etc. Thank you for your answers so far, even yours zylesea at least you explained your vote, I hope the other people who vote yes do as well. It might help understand what some people would like to see happen next (after the x1000 success or failure).


I like to add, that I would be happy if X1000 was really successful. I like all Amiga stuff and I still like ppc. And in particular the PA6T is a nice chip. My vote with 'yes' was a bit blunt though. Somewhenre deep in my heart I don't wish then to fail, but I don't think they will not fail. And then I am better for a quick end.

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Re: Do you want the AmigaOne X1000 project to fail?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 10:28:59 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;610668
What sort of person would be a member of Amiga.org and desire for anything related to the Amiga legacy to fail?


I think the question is not phrased very well. Dunno about the other 12 ppl (yet) who voted 'yes', but I did because I think this x1000 project is like approaching a wall with a car on full speed and still accelerating...
Early this milenium the approach of new ppc hardware was okay (Genesi did a rother good job on this), but since Apple left ppc it is more than difficult in ppc land. There are options but they are very different to the X1000 approach (I think Acube does is a bit more on track, but still there is *a lot* in particular highly debateable with their approach, but at least it is way better than the A-eon approach).
All in all the boat has sailed pretty much, it is important to change the strategy. The sooner the better. Hence, the earlier the X1000 fiasco gets overcome the better. IMHO überexpensive delayed mid-class hardware (for which it is doubtful when and if drivers will work sufficiently, look to the recent problems of the Sams) is just not the way forward.
I would be pretty interested if the other 'yes' voters see the things similar or if they had other reasons to vote 'yes'.
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