The Ultimate A4000T Setup is FOR SALE

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Yes, this is not to flame, but shows you that at most that amiga can get is $2000 if parted out.

Maybe, but what is a 12 year old "max'd out" peecee worth today?  Old PCs are not even worth the effort to heave them into the trash..  The sad part is the PC probably cost a couple of grand when it was new, probably not much less than the Amiga 4000T cost.  

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I built an Intel E6400 for $1500, and throw in Winuae.. and I got a system that will vaporise any Amiga 4000

A friend of min in college had a slightly modified Buick Grand National that would do an 11.45 second quarter mile, much faster than the occasional Ferrari that would show up at the track.  The Buick "vaporizes" the Ferrari.  But I still want the Ferrari, tyvm.  

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JaXanim wrote:
I think everyone's missing the point here. Whether this kit is worth three and a half grand to you is irrelevant. This stuff is thoroughbred Amiga, not something as good as or better than or pretending to be. What's faster? What's it matter. That's not what it's about.

It's a bit like those other Picassos people sell now and then.

What would Picasso's 'Sunflowers' sell for? Twenty million? Fifty million? A hundred? Well I wouldn't say it was worth anything like that. It looks like a child's daub to me, but I'm not a connoisseur of the impressionists. I like the picture OK, but I'd be happy with a photo or a cheap print of it. That's the difference between those who say 'it's a rip off', 'not worth it' and the few who see things differently.

There are rich connoisseurs of everything and anything these days including Amigas. They don't necessarily chat to the likes of us and frequent Amiga.org, but they know what they like and they'll know the genuine thing when they see it. It's about the genuine thing. It's about provenance, that intangible quality some things have that no modern substitute can ever give. It has love built into it from 20 years' effort and use.

It would take considerable effort (and expense) to put this same kit together today. You would probably have to post wanted ads for all the original hardware and that puts up the price. How many PIVs do you see on offer? One now and then. How many Zorro Preludes have you seen on AmiBench? Not one I bet. How long would you be prepared to work getting it all together? A year? Two years? Five maybe? How much would you reckon your effort is worth at a daily rate?

No, this is an opportunity for those rare buyers of rare things. It's not up to anyone here to pour cold water on this guy's hopes. He's selling part of his life here. Part of himself. And the best of luck to him I say.

JaX

I agree with your sentiment.  But wasn't in Vincent Van  Gogh who did Sunflowers?

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c64_d0c wrote:
@Corrie

if i was you i would kept the 3500 price tag, its worth at least that. all this crap talk about emulators and compering pc prices with an amiga 4000t here just show what i said earlyer, there is alot of cheap bastadrs here. its a classic and got all the top-notch hard to get pieces, dont listen to them cheap bastadrs... you will get your price, when there is a serious buyer, if he dont show up now keep the system.... you can always put it up for sale again later...

Right on.  Most of these so-called "comparisons" are bogus.  PCs are the fastest things on earth -- very few things depreciate faster.   Amigas have an indellible reputation for quality that cements it is an object of value, regardless of age.  PC makers also have a reputation - one that is best summarized in a single word: 'disposable'.