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Re: Was this a good buy?
« on: September 14, 2006, 06:56:24 PM »
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or much less, hard to say what this stuff is "worth"
I hope it will be worth more as I have tons of it, but I kinda doubt it... as much as I love these old things I just don't see it turning mainstream anytime... but we can alwasy hope!


Amiga being "mainstream" would destroy its cult appeal and make them worthless (how many free Amigas have you seen on Craigslist?).  Rarity and desireability are what determine value.  The desireability of Amiga equipment is static - if not increasing.  And rarity is proportional to time.  I think for sure Amiga prices will continue to go up.  For the better, imho.  
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Re: Was this a good buy?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2006, 07:59:20 PM »
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yeah I see what you mean, I think I used the wrong word.
I think over time less and less people will go to the trouble of wanting to run a classic amiga.  As much as I enjoy playing with them I get the feel that is i actualy considered an uncool activity (not just by my girlfriend).  It's not like restoring a classic car or anything.  If course I want it to nad hope more people will get involved, just not sure it will happen based on what I see.  Prices are falling on the old grear all the time.  I think those that are going to get into it are already here.


You think so?  I know what you're saying, but I see evidence to the contrary.  I work for a big hardware manufacturer (one most people have heard of).  My co-workers at first thought I was a out of my mind when I told them I had a collection of interesting vintage "PCs" from late 1980s and early 90s. Of course they were envisioning me piddling around with huge, big Mamma, clunker 286 DOS 2.0 machines.   They were all astounded when I showed them my workshop; 4 new LCD flat panel monitors lit up with nice, modern looking "desktops" all in 16 or 24 bit resolution - all networked.  No big, ugly CPU cases; biggest one is the Mirage.  I had the 1200 hooked up to a Magma Box via PCMCIA and the Magma connected to an HP LTO Gen III (2gb NFC!!) tape drive.  NFC = Native Fibre Channel.  How's that for contrast?  :)  They couldn't believe it..  "These are Ataris and Amigas???"   They had images of the Amiga 500 and the Atari 2600, and nothing else.  If anything, it confirmed, in their minds, that indeed I am truly a little nuts.  :)  Anyway, I digress..  my point is that I think the Amiga will retain its cult status for a long time.  One of my co-workers is now trolling ebay in search of an A1200 like mine.   My neighbor's 16 year old son is a musician.  He has been pestering me to sell him my MegaSTE.  He wants because his musical idols used Ataris for MIDI work.  Thats natural.  I can see his way of thinking just as I can see him wanting an "old" Les Paul Guitar instead of a new one.        
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Re: Was this a good buy?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 09:17:59 PM »
You are absolutely right about the amount of upkeep involved in maintaining these machines, to say nothing of the money!  To most of us its a hobby.  Some of us take our hobbies more seriously than others, thats all.  :)  You said new machines are "better" and "faster".   No question they're faster, but so what?  I may be in the minority here but for me,  I am perfectly happy with 100 million instruction cycles PER SECOND.   If the trade-off  for me to increase the rate at which I can compute to, say, 3 billion instruction cycles per second is a switch to one of three equally horrendous operating systems (Mac, Linux or Windows), then I'll stick with the 100 million ticks/second, TYVM.   As far as "better", thats subjective.  Ask 100 people to define "better", you'll get 100 different definitions.   My view is that new machines are not necessarily "better".  They're bug ridden, complicated, virus prone, inefficient, prone to overheat, and top heavy with software.   Granted, you can do a lot more gee-wiz 'multimedia' stuff with new machines (like games and pornography).  But I'm not really into those things.  I think you and me grew up around the same time and we probably both got started early using Amigas.  As such, we took AmigaOS for granted thinking "this is how a computer behaves; we command it, not the other way around".   Eventually Windows got big, but it was an abomination, the very antithesis  of what a computer IS.  At least thats how I viewed it.  :)  To really appreciate the Amiga you kind of have to step back in time and undo a lot of the brainwashing of the last fifteen years.    
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A4000T. Phase5 PPC604e-233mhz/060-66mhz. Mediator, Z3 Fastlane, Voodoo5, Delfina, X-Surf, AD516, Peggy Plus.

Collection:
A4000D, A1200, A500, Milan060 (Atari clone), Atari MegaSTE, Atari TT030, C64, C128, Mattel Aquarius, (2) HP Jornada....