Which Amiga?

[McVenco]

reidy4040 wrote:
what about second hand?

If you are only into playing games, look for an Amiga 500. Sure, the A1200 is better, faster and more expandable, but 90% of all Amiga games runs on a standard A500, and they are a lot cheaper. Try Ebay for a nice little package (A500 + mouse + joystick + tv-modulator), or search your local ads paper/thriftstore/Craigslist.

If you really want to dive into more possibilities, go for an A1200, but for just games, I still value the A500 best.

Don't pay more than €50,00 for an A500. Here in Holland you can usually get a complete set (sometimes even with monitor) for almost half that price, if you're a bit patient with searching for it...

[McVenco]

@ McVenco, I'v never found any game that's incompatible without ReloKick on the A1200. I can't see how you could imagine to go without AGA graphics, you would miss out on so many good games.

The only AGA game that I find worth playing often is Slamtilt. All my other favourite games are OCS and run fine on a 1MB A500.

Relokick is cute, but it's just like using an A1000 where you have to load the Kickstart disk first - after a while it really gets annoying.

For gaming I'd have an A500 over an A1200 anyday.

Also: if someone just wants to play some old games for good old time's sake it's totally ridiculous to advice him to buy an expensive A1200 with an 68030 accelerator and putting WHDLoad on a 4GB harddisk (or advicing to buy a Minimig for that matter). That's like buying a Ferrari when you only want to drive 5 miles to the pub once every 3 weeks.

Go for an A500. It's more retro than an A1200 as well
(who needs 32 bit when playing Pacmania :-) )

[McVenco]

tokyoracer wrote:

What about Banshee? Super Stardust? Superfrog?

Superfrog is OCS, not AGA.

Sure, a lot of AGA games are cool, but most games have OCS equivalents (SWIV, Stardust), plus there's far more OCS than AGA games to play with, so do you really miss out THAT much if you can't play them?

Maybe I'm a bit narrowsighted since I never had an AGA machine until 2006, but I've since played nearly every AGA game and I can't say I missed out on much in the nineties.

[McVenco]

reidy4040 wrote:

I dont know much about Amiga's and how they work etc.

davideo wrote:

Thanks to the marvelous WHDload package...

downix wrote:

I would actually recommend the MiniMig...

My God. You people really don't read, don't you? The guy has little knowledge about Amigas and you come up with WHDLoad and Minimig?

Let's consider:
1) Minimig + all peripherals: around 170 euros.

2) A1200 + some RAM + monitor + registered WHDLoad: around 140 euros plus a lot of hassle getting it all installed.

3) Amiga 500 + monitor with a truckload of games, all ready to play instantly from disk: 60 euros.

Seriously, we have someone here who wants to play a game he played when he was a kid, not to learn rocket science.


@reidy4040: an A1200 is just as good as an A500, but in it's standard form you could encounter trouble when running older games. Forget about RAM-cards, accelerators or WHDLoad when you just want to play a few games. If you really wish to run dozens of different games and play a few times per week, then it might be interesting to start learning more about the Amiga, but for an occasional game an A500 is just as good in my humble opinion.

[McVenco]

tokyoracer wrote:
@ downix, I wouldn't. Expensive, hard work to make and time-comsuming. Unless hes a real wizz at the soldering iron and isn't too hard up.

Ehmm... Minimigs are being sold as complete systems by Acube, so no soldering required...

[McVenco]

tokyoracer wrote:
@McVenco, Still not cheap.

Yeah. I mentioned that before as well :-)

[McVenco]

I'd say the A2000 is best for this guy.
It gives him many more options at a much smaller price
than either the A1200 or the A500.

I doubt that. The A2000 itself is not cheaper than an A500 or A1200, and expansions like accelerators or SCSI controllers are in the same price range as A1200 ones, or even more expensive.

And if you want to store your Amiga in a cupboard, only to take it out and connect it to a TV everytime you want to play a game, then the A2000 isn't your Amiga either.

Mind you, I really like the A2000 (I like all Amigas for that matter), but it's hardly a games machine.