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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2004, 12:44:26 AM »
@Ryu

You're not being ignored:) I'd like to hear the results of the phonecall too.
But you have to keep in mind that this is probably the only easy way that we have to protect ourselves.
Filing a complaint makes Paypal ask the seller for a proof that he has sent the goods.
Even if he can't do that, the complaint can still be cancelled if we later receive the cards. So he has nothing to lose. But we have!. I do not know how much time passes after he his found to be fraudulent though. But looking at some FAQs in the paypal site the investigation from Paypal can last up to 30 days. There's also probably feedback from the buyer seller and Paypal during that time so we can arrange any mistake.
I really hope this has a cool end..

I do know that if people start complaining some sellers don't like it and that really screw the buyers, but again, this is probably the only easy way to protect ourselves, and I've already sent him an email exaplaining exactly this...I don't think he has anything to lose if he shipped the card and I file a complaint.

Meanwhile please post here any results if someone calls him.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2004, 07:58:11 PM »
@ PulsatingQuasar

You got a point. And he kind of made us a favour for selling the cards like that, if they're new.
I'll wait a bit longer. He deserves it.

What concerns me is, if it does go wrong we won't have Paypal to complain to anymore, so what will we do then?
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2004, 08:35:30 PM »
Does anyone knows anyone in Germany that lives near this guy that could pick up the cards for us? If so, I'll call him to arranje things. I made a Paypal complaint... this has been goint for too long without explanation.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2004, 10:51:42 PM »
@Acill and other's that are think to leave
"This is why I am a Pegasos user now..."

Ugh? :-? What does that has to do with anything?
We made the choice to make a risky deal in the first place! I can't see why anyone should leave the Amiga because of this.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2004, 10:13:03 PM »
Hi all. I fell in the obligation to tell you...
I made a Paypal complaint, wich as you know can last for 30 days or more, but it resumes and the seller is found guilty after 7 days if he doesn't respond. All he has to do is put some answer in a webform. But he has to provide evidence that he shipped the item, like insurance and tracking nr. or whatever.
In one of the mails he sent me he confirmed that he had insured the item ( I asked if he had).

Now can you believe that he let the 7 days pass without saying anything? Paypal automatically recovered around 5 Euros for me dohhhhh:(
I even mailed him when I made the complaint explaining that all I wanted was to be sure he had the cards and that all he had to do was send the tracking nr. to me, or Paypal.
Maybe it wasn't the best choice on my part, but it's done.
And if he had sent the cards, what difficulty would exist in mailing me the insurance form, or the tracking nr.?

Maybe we'll receive the cards in the end, but somethings not right in here. I think we should gather info of all the people who ordered and paid cards to this guy, and act as a group, cause that will have more impact (if any).
But I still think we should send him a mail informing of this and asking for some explanation (as a group). I've already asked for that individually.
Just my opinion. What do you think?

P.S. I'm not as much on the net as some of you, and might take more time reply to this forum....
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2004, 10:46:58 PM »
Maybe we could get someone from Germany to pick up the cards, anyone reading that could do that?
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2004, 08:20:59 PM »
I think in the general text attachment that was sent to us it says there were various people from the group replying to mails...

So, should we start thinking about what are we going to do?
European union consumer protection (if it it even exists, maybe german..) or police or what? Just the ones I remember right now...
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2004, 06:59:34 PM »
Hey all. Cool good news.
If we get to receive the tracking nr. and it's a valid one we will have no problem locating our cards. I've rescued a few orders already using the tracking nr. Unbelievable the extent of orders that for no reason just get stuck somewhere... :-x
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2004, 03:10:45 AM »
@JaXanim

Thanks for all the work you made for us too. Like others said I'd also be willing to share any costs you had.

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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2004, 01:20:37 AM »
If he closed the account we'll only be able to trace the IP(s) of the person that used that mail for a short time. And given the time the authorities take to act in general, by the time they try to identify the owner of the e-mail address it won't be possible anymore.
Maybe we should also contact Paypal and explain the situation to them. Then they could retain the iformation associated with that email's account.
Actually, all of us that payed using Paypal should make a compalaint explaining the situation, even if the deadline for getting a refund still passed out.  
Any more ideas regarding this :-?
I'm having some work to finish now , but I'll back on the net wednesday or thursday...
 
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2004, 07:32:18 PM »
Hi, sorry for late reply. I don't mind at all.
Cheers
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2004, 08:29:48 PM »
Wow good news, finally. Well at least apparently...
I had some stuff retained in customs before for no apparent reason and with some pressure they got it processed.
The strange thing is that since this all goes to different countries it's strange that all got stuck at the same time.
But if it's some "central for international distribution" that would be an explanation, cause all stuff would go throught that place.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2004, 08:47:01 PM »
@punpkie
Yeah, but hey, if that's the case, it's still great news that the cards exist :-o  Unless he sent us a brick like preacher said :-D
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2004, 08:49:14 PM »
And to think that I've just finished typing a request for information on the guy to Paypal... 8-) Not that it still can't go all wrong though.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2004, 09:18:41 PM »
@Jax
I think we done the right thing. Given the time that has passed, and without almost any communication from the seller, it was the only sane thing to do.
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Re: Several PPC cards on Amibench
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 20, 2004, 05:43:24 PM »
Just been to the post again myself...no bloody {bleep}ing anything!! :-x
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