What Killed the Amiga userbase (the various "AIncs") and May Kill it Again!!

[Jose]

Disclaimer: This also reflects my opinion, that I thought I'd share with you.

I'm tired and I'm out for sure this time. I may come back, but would like to share this with you.

I  sure would like to hear confirmation  from some   people about one thing. The new IBM 64bit PowerPC processor is due to not very long.  It was said that it should be easy to port OS4 to 64bit, but that it would be incompatible with the 32bit version due to some technicall stuff like offsets being different.

If that's  the only reason, here you have a way to check AInc's will toward AOS, and more importantly towards the users!  OS4 will need to have it's own native softwarebase anyway. It'd be only a matter of developers making a checkmark in the compiler et "voilá".

Eventhough I'm pending towards an A1 with OS4 I'll only give them my money if I have this confirmation.

 I hope AInc. is not using the good will of the more zealot users to deceive them and push their own agenda with DE stuff, like it was happening in the begining. Honestly I like the DE, but tricking the users to use it would be false and not even moral. The userbase as you know shrinked completely when Collas anounced they were gonna use Linux. Then the current AInc. almost gave the final toutch announcing TAOs intent. It was these two idiotic moves that killed the user base at that time(of course time that has passed would have made that too).

You people are going to buy the machines but don't know in what you're investing in the long term.

And no I'm not gonna use MOS, so please don't suggest. But it's because of these reasons that people prefer MOS and hate AInc. and I understand them. They put up all those messages to users about the DE as if they were only using us. Users are/were still here for some reason you know. I really hope AInc is not gonna do that and I won't buy anything till I have the confirmation.

Just my half a cent :-( I really hope that won't be the case, and I'm willing to show my support. Actually I have, I'm a club member.
Cheers.

Maybe in the Summer I'll come over  to see what 's hapenned. It'll be cool to come over here and find out plenty messages about the new OS and hardware that HAS been released... :-D
Maybe by then people already know the answer to this question?
Peace to all.

[Jose]

@DaveP
"Sorry, lost me. What are you asking for again?"
Well, I allways doubted that AOS would be continued in the long term, and thought probably it would be substituted with some layer to run DE stuff. The Amiga users are still here cause they like the ClassicOS, and they wish the continuation of it. If I want to use TAO's OS I don't need the DE, if we're to use Linux (like in Collas's times) the interest in the Amiga itself disappears.
What it seemed to me was that the people that bought AInc. bought it for the users, to get a users base for their own products. The Tech Updates, or whatever on the begining clearly showed that. Hey here's this cooll Jeep you can buy from us for you sport's car fans... be glad.

@lempkee

"...For the MOS stuff, i am no fan of mos, thats mostly beause of the policy they use , or in better words..because of BBRV and also because its not Amiga as i know it....but in the long run i might turn to mos if i have to, as i wont move to linux or mac or pc..."

Exactly. Moving to Linux (Collas times) or TAO's OS wouldn't be AmigaOS anymore. It would be kind of contradictory to want to use Amiga users for a different OS when these users have been here for so many years for the platform they like and they're used to and know so well.

@MikeyMike
"Personally I hope DE will disappear in a cloud of vapour Why on earth would anyone want it anyway . Java has been there, MS smartphone will hopefully go the way of the dodo..."
I thinkk DE has more advantages. You can use more options with it than Java. It's also a good way of targetting the big mass market. What I don 't like is they were using the Amiga users to push they're own agenda with the DE, and completely scrapping AmigaOS at the same time. How things are now seem to be much more fair. An combination of interests. I'd gladly support the DE IF I knew they were supporting AmigaOS.


I think things migh come out well though, and I hope AmigaOS(not just the name) continues beyond OS4 and.

By they way I won't get outta here. It's stronger than me :-D