I remember some time last year that a graphics card company, I think Matrox, cheated with their card drivers. They made their drivers lower their graphics detail in Quake III so that it looked like the card was fast. Was a marketing ploy, because Quake III is used as a benchmark for alot of Magazines that review cards.
ummm that was ATI with their first radeons

But now with the 9700 and its new core they have done a good job and nVidia will have to work hard to beat them :-)
have you listened both cards?
GeForce FX BootingGeForce FX running 3dMarkand now the 9700...
Radeon 9700 Bootingummm now i've found something better in my Voodoo3, it doesn't have a fan so it's completely quiet.
