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Re: Life after OS 4.0
« on: January 20, 2004, 09:33:55 PM »
"and plus that I LoVe AOS3.9 and 060 68k AGA 50fps."

AOS3.9 on AGA sucks compared to any Amiga with graphic card (Classic or not).

50fps? and 50Hz of course. With a graphic card I can have 50fps AND 100hz so I don't burn my eyes like AGA users. Oh I almost forget it, thanks to my Picasso4 I can see AGA at 100Hz on my 20" Eizo. Try to do that with your plain AGA setup.

"I dont care much for AOS4
because it looks like a whinedouze hybrid,"

If that's your only problem you can define a 3.1 look.

BTW if you insist OS4 supports AGA. But it requires PPC of course... that was the point in releasing OS4, migrating to a pure PPC like MOS has already done.

"An os4.0 owner will become
more like every pc user is...
Telling themselves over and over again
that they need a better processor
and a better graphics card
and then a better sound card
and so a better monitor
and then a better ...etc"

why you upgraded to a 060? do you feel like a pc user? A 020 should be enough, shouldn't it?

your comment sounds childish to me.

Have you ever owned a big box amiga? I had a 2000, a 3000,a 4000 and now I've got a 4000T. If I can do anything faster why not upgrade? If someone doesn't want to upgrade it's ok for me, I prefer to make the computer wait me rather than the opposite.

Amigas has always been expandable.

Draco users are pc users because they don't use aga?
Toaster users are pc users because they use cards?
If someone uses birdie to put textures to its windows is he a pc user?
if you use 3.9 and you use amidock are you a pc user?

What's a "pc user"?

Come on if everyone thought like you we would still be using A500. we wouldn't use ide drives because peecee users use ide drives so they suck, and we wouldn't use serial or parallel because pc users also use it and blah blah blah

Do you use a HD? why you installed a hard disk in your 1200? are you becomin g a pc user? oh no! :-D
did you felt the need of doing your work faster? oh no! now you are a pc user!

bah! this is pathetic.

It's ok for me that someone thinks that a 060 AGA is ok for his needs, but if somebody updates his equipment or would like simply that his computer worked faster he does not become a pc user.

And for your information, most of Amiga users also own a pc due to their jobs and it's not the end of their lifes. They can have as much fun as you with their amigas.
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Re: Life after OS 4.0
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2004, 09:40:22 PM »
BTW I also own a Pegasos with MorphOS and it's a great system. It still requires some work but it kicks any 3.x ass.

Leave AGA and do the evolution baby!
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Re: Life after OS 4.0
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2004, 11:34:51 AM »
"Is it smoother?"

Pegasos works very smoothly. Even solid window movement is smooth (miles ahead of AGA). The pointer moves quite smoothly too. I have a voodoo 3500 at it works really well. It seems that Radeons work even better.

If you have never tested an Amiga with a decent graphic card, try it... you won't want to use AGA again :-D

If you are thinking that a gfx card on amiga works like the windows marquesine screensaver forget it. It works smoothly, and that's due to incompetent windows programmers.

Even an old card like a Picasso2 has a blitter much faster than AGA so you can move smoothly anything. We are not in the VGA times when pc gfx cards didn't use a blitter to move stuff.

Try to use Zorro3, PCI or AGP gfx cards. Zorro2 are a cheap solution if you already have zorros, if you don't have zorros go for a pci solution.

A Pegasos has the benefit of better and faster PCIs, AGP, IDE, a faster CPU, etc...

A1s should work well too (I don't know compared to Pegasos2, but anything is better than AGA and 68k)
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Re: Life after OS 4.0
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2004, 03:39:07 PM »
AGA can be fun for demos/intros because it's very limited and it's fun to "push the limits", but I don't agree with those comments about how wonderful AGA is compared to more modern machines.

You can do 50fps easily with a gfx card on a 680x0 (or ppc) Amiga.
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Re: Life after OS 4.0
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2004, 07:43:15 PM »
It should be possible to make Clolour-Cycling changing the colour table...
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Re: Life after OS 4.0
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2004, 09:14:09 PM »
@Waccoon
"16, 24, and 32-bit frambuffers work very differently"

yes. That's why doing a simple colour fade is quite hard with 16 and 24 bit displays, you have to rewrite the entire display

I guess that thanks to the 8-bit transparency of a 32bit display it would be faster to do fades with 24bit screens
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