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Re: 3000 vs 4000?
« on: April 12, 2011, 12:19:02 AM »
Quote from: runequester;630981
Seems the forum ate my post :(

Anyways, in 2 months or so, we're looking at moving to  anew apartment, which opens up the potential for a big box amiga, since I'll have the space and a dedicated computer room.

So the question is.. 3000 or 4000? (2000 is out, due to 16 bit zorro)


As far as I know:
4000 gets AGA, and comes with an 040 already (generally)

3000 gets a scan doubler included already.


I know the 3000 is SCSI and the 4000 is IDE. What I don't know if what practical difference that makes. I dont think I've ever used a machine with SCSI anything. Anyone care to enlighten me here? :)

Other things to consider?


Stuff that will go into the machine is: 040 or 060 card, scan doubler, RTG, RAM expansion (like zorRAM or something else), USB and some sort of networking solution (whether through USB or otherwise)


THat also brings me to... what are the best networking solutions for these machines?

I own both. The A3000 is nice (just like all amigas...) but rarely used (despiting the fact that I invested a fortune upgrading it).

Get an A4000. It will cause you less problems. A3000 case is beautiful but is very uncomfortable, it requires updating almost everything and ends up being much more expensive. A3000 scsi is problematic depending on accelerator/chip combo (and it´s slow compared to any decent scsi from Cyberstorm, warpengine. The onboard 030 is a joke if you are used to 040/060 speeds like me. ZIPs suck because they are both expensive and if you have bad contacts you will get crazy trying to find which ZIP is causing the problems. Buster is outdated and you need to update it. Scandoubler is old if you plan to use TFT you really need an Indivision (unless you can live with ntsc screenmodes, I can´t since most stuff I run is designed for pal). A4000 causes far less problems IMHO.

About SMD silly comments: SMD in fact causes that failure rate is much lower because you can rule out easily bad contacts, chips coming loose, cracked sockets, users inserting chips in the opposite way... it saves power and allows designing smaller boards. Even the A3000 uses SMD for its 030.
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Re: 3000 vs 4000?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 09:31:42 AM »
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Besides games and toaster AGA, what would AGA give you over RTG CGX?


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