Pegasos to go on sale Monday / Pegasos II to ship September 2003

[Crumb]

@takemehomegrandma

Well, let's hope so! But we do not know much about the reasons to this twist. Is it MAI/Articia-related?

I think that Articia Sa (or P) is nearly finished. Why continue producing Articia S based computers if the have to wait until the chips arrive etc... it's easier for them to make a new board. They already have the experience of the previous Pegasos. It's a logical movement in my opinion, because they will not sell old chipsets when they can get new ones at a similar price. On the other hand I think that the MorphOS user base will be quite small (Around 600users) well, I'm not counting the Cyberstorms, but It seems to me very few Pegasos.
Many people bought a Pegasos due to the possibility of upgrading the CPU. Ok, there's a similar offer to that made to AmigaOne SE users, but I think that they should do upgrade cards... of course we'll have to see the offer.

[Crumb]

@mountainmyst
The Pegasos is the first board, I guess that there will be a total of around 1400 - 1500 out before the release of the Pegasos II. And yes, people has it use it, and Pegasos and MorphOS is working now, but I think that the problem of Articia S availibility and the inminent release of the new Articia Sa and P are the reason of this limited quantity of boards.

We are not used to have new Amiga models so fast, so the feeling is a little strange, at least for me. We are not used to be able to buy a new board much better and faster in so little time. We'll have to get used to it. Now that we use more standard components it's easier to launch new boards in a shorter period of time.

@ksk

Is there any news about G4 CPU that can fully use DDR system memory bandwidth?

Afaik, no, but being able to use DDR memory will help a lot when DIMMs start to dissapear (I would say that this kind of memory is being replaced by DDR and it's getting difficult to find it...)


@bbrv & hyperion
I'd like to see MorphOS for AmigaOne and OS4 for Pegasos(1/2). If you can't make this reality at least try to allow the developers some portability.

For example, the Firewire stack. I don't know if work has started in this, but it would be a good idea to start talking about this to avoid that both come with their own incompatible usb solution.

If you don't get on well between you, leave the work to a third party and ude it without exclusive agreements etc. The Amiga OS standards should be Open. Open as the OpenPCI library for example. And portable too. There's no sense in reinventing the wheel for things that don't exist yet.

Both of you are using AHI (thank you). Both of you are planing reimplementing the graphic library to avoid the need of using p96/cgx library (I mean, they are going to integrate the rtg libraries in the graphics.library, ending with 2 incompatible systems). One is p96 the other cgx. May you define a standard and make your OS compatible with it?

I think that projects like Phoenix should act as mediators between both partys to avoid the need of breaking the community in little pieces.

Both OS4 and MorphOS use a lot of third party products. Let's use the same products and standards so programmers have less work to support both systems. At the moment the only portable way to do things is to code without using specific OS extensions and using cgx and ahi... there are lots of incompatible drivers etc... sad. What about releasing a gcc distro that can compile code for MorphOS/Amithlon/OS4/OS3/AROS cahnging some flags? That would make the user (and programmer) lifes better.

ummm I should sleep, sometimes I write too much  :-D