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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« on: June 10, 2010, 09:45:50 AM »
@lechuck

moana is useless without usb/Network/audio/mac partition support. Download here a fix for your problem: http://www.morphos-team.net/downloads.html
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 04:18:58 PM »
@skurk

Radeon initialization may be slightly different. Anyway, the problem with Moana is not the gfx card, it's just everything else! nobody is going to write drivers for it so IMHO it's just an interesting preview of what could have been
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2010, 12:46:46 AM »
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The explanation I got was that Hyperion is building up the market, by porting to new motherboards, someone can make the mobo (Acube), someone can sell it (AmigaKit) and someone needs an OS to (Hyperion), so they all make money and a new Amiga market is built.

The(ir) problem is that we don't need these OS4 dongles (read os4 outdated-slow-expensive hardware slower) because hardware that is both faster and cheaper exists. They should care about increasing the small userbase instead of trying to sell us things we don't need.

Supporting Mac Mini was possible butthey decided to milk users to sell us something we don't need.

I can understand some people prefer to buy new hardware but then a release for Mac Mini won't cause any harm if people is really interested in this expensive&slow new hardware.

Others may claim that if existing hardware is cheaper users won't buy slower new hardware. The solution is releasing better hardware (at least better than the hardware sold FIVE years ago) instead of forcing users to buy an outdated machine.

Sam440/440EP and others are another attempt to sell us some technology from 5 years ago at prices higher than 5 years ago... and we don't want/need that hardware! we want/need te OS!

Anybody could notice the excitement when Moana was discovered... they would have sold more units of OS4 and those who think sam440 is great could have bought a sam440 still.

It seems Ben Hermans thinks milking users is fine. Hyperion was a small software company and it's software what they should produce and sell us, not hardware.

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But to be totally honest, a port to Mac Mini makes the most sense, no?! Just think about the userbase and all kind of awesome programs that could be programmed by the new userbase?

They could have released OS4 for Mac Mini G4, Latest powerbooks/ibooks g4 and G5 machines but instead it seems Ben Hermans and company are more interested in making cash flow to their pockets than in increasing the userbase.

Ben Hermans is destroying AmigaOS milking the small userbase.

Instead of fixing problems caused by hardware like a1/sam440 they should have ported it to x86-64 machines or at least Apple PPC hardware.
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2010, 11:12:17 AM »
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Piru will argue against this point until death.  He believes that because there are tons of cheap,  unused MacMinis laying around, that people will be drawn to use them with MorphOS.  I guess he hasn't driven by any auto junkyards lately.  Tons of unused, obsolete cars just waiting to be adopted and put back on the road.......yeah, right.....

MorphOS will go extinct with that kind of business model.  Not even 3rd world countries can be coaxed into using MorphOS even if the hardware and OS was given to them for free.  It doesn't offer them a future......or us one for that matter.

Following you car analogy: The problem is that OS4 crew is trying to enforce customers to buy "new" Flintmobiles with prehistoric 603 cores instead of using available fast, reliable and comfortable 2nd hand Mercedes. And the problem is that Ben Hermans and company are trying to force us to buy Flintmobiles like they were modern gasoline cars (but just because you like the cool 80s radio included on it)

MorphOS won't go extint because MorphOS coders don't make MorphOS to become rich, they do it because they love it (probably just like Friedens love os4).

In contrast Ben Hermans is only interested in the money and not in the OS or users.

I know several people buying cheap eMacs/MacMinis to run MorphOS but I don't know many people who plans to invest 1800Euros in 5year old technology at prices from 5 years ago.
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Re: I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2010, 09:16:55 PM »
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A chill pill?! macintosh does not belong to the Amiga, you know that. Apple and Microsift is a box of garbage.:afro:

Yeah! PowerPC and x86 have nothing to do with a-meee-gas! bring us the real 68060 a-mee-gas! ;-P
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