E-UAE Mac OS 10.4.3 Tiger

[Macman]

I didn't think I was stupid, until I tried to set up E-UAE.

I have a very good working knowledge of Amigas, emulation, and WinUAE. I have my Amiga roms, test ADF's ready to go.

But, I am almost ready to admit defeat :-?

Is there such a thing as a guide to setting up E-UAE with Hi-Torro ?

Apple have just released an intel Dual core iMac and laptop, this will have big implications for emulation on the Mac, for the better I think.

One of the most exiting things will be being able to run Windows on the Mac at almost native x86 speed. It runs pretty well on my iMac now but will only get better.

Although will this mean that emulator writers will get lazy and rely on the windows ports of emulators instead of building native versions for multiple OS's?

Thanks a lot for any help.

[Macman]

Sorry I posted in haste,

Just like to say Hi, I'm new to this forum. Looks like a knowledgeable friendly lot in here.

I'm fairly new to the Mac but know the Amiga and Windows backwards. Hopefully I'll get a good Amiga emulator up and running at some point.

I know you guys would understand that I quite miss my Amiga, I was going to set up the newest AIAB archive on E-UAE.

This is prompted by the excellent AIAB, and also a visit to a very cool website.

HOL Amiga Database

Brought back so many memories, being controversial here I would say that the Mac is the new Amiga! I love my mac in the same way that I used to love my Amiga.

There is no way I have ever "loved" using a PC / windows.

Using my Mac I am now having "fun" using a computer rather than having to tweak and fix it all the time. It's just like using a modern Amiga again, but better.

Oops, just realised I have drifted off topic!

[Macman]

This is embarasing. Also read (and re-read the docs)

I'm starting to get somewhere, I'm building download locations and a helppages to make it easier for the Mac newbie to set up EUAE.

I have now got a starting point of a working Amiga on my Mac, I was using a limited account, and needed to make changes in an Admin account. I did this low level installation stuff with fast user switching.

Thing is I was in the middle of rendering and saving an H264 movie. I was stunned to see my movie still happily rendering away for me, whilst me (as another user) made an alteration to the OS, and then ran EUAE with my movie still rendering in my limited profile.

Erm, my emulated Amiga seems to be running at full speed, even though I am rendering a movie, and typing on this forum.

The Mac is awsome to do all this at once, so easily.

Now all I have to do is configure it, put my fav games one click away, then try to configure my Sony playstation joypad through a USB converter, not sure if that works in this version of EUAE.

I have the hard disk contents from my A1200 to move, another vitual HD to make containing AIAB and another containing Amiga Forever.

My movie is still rendering, and my Virtual Amiga is asking me to insert a floppy.

Thanks for the help, I have been weak and also purchased the Cloanto 2005 CD/DVD set as I feel an Amiga nastalgia weekend approaching  :-)

[Macman]

I have got it up and running It is not quite as fast as I thought, it seems to be that the more chipset functions that are in use at the same time, the slower it gets.

Workbench will be fantastic though, epsecially with RTG. I'm not displeased with it's performance for games yet, as I havn't started tweaking it yet.

I should be able to set up two folders with games that work best with an emulated A1200 and those that don't need that level as an A500.

The trick seems to be to turn off everything in the emulator you don't need.

Each folder then can run a custom UAE setup depending on what the game needs, shouldn't be to hard. Then I just need to drop the games into the correct folder to be configured.

When I get my AF I'll include that in any guide I make.

I'm using a 17" iMac G5 with a gig of ram (ram really helps with emus) and a 250gig HD. The 20" iMac is faster.

The new intel iMac is 2-3 times faster. With a new native intel OSX version of EUAE - this should be awesome.

EUAE is also faster running full screen, but I'm running it in a window at the moment.

I'll have to dig out my Amiga benchmarking software. It's early days yet. I've only just got it booting and running a demo or two....

It was cool when my Mac audio blasted out "Fisrt there was menace, now a DMA design game - Blood Money!" :-)

[Macman]

Mac feels like an Amiga?

It's the closest I've seen, there are even things like LIBS (library folders) that do similar things on the Mac.

I think the reason it feels the same is that they are both elegant systems.

I mean, what is the point of the registry :lol:

[Macman]

OSX on the Mac is a very cool Unix.

Amiga OS was also based on Unix underpinnings when it was developed, there are lots of similarities.

Fedora Core 4 (x86 Linux) also feels like this.

[Macman]

XDelusion wrote:
For some reason or another UAE has never been quite complete on superior OS's such as ANYTHING not winblows. It's very ironic. :/

I agree, although I've come to regard Windows as a sad excuse for an OS, I suppose they have done pretty well with x86 backwards compatibility which has always hampered what windows could have been. It became more hard work than fun, so I switched to the Mac, and haven't regretted it for a second.

The most modern fast and up to date emulators are ALWAYS written for windows first, I've got no problem with that. Although I have found some excellent emulators for OSX, I will be setting up other machines on my Mac soon ish.

This is an Amiga forum though, so I thought I'd start with one of the hardest computers to emulate. Unfortunately EUAE is lagging behind WinUAE, but good effort I say, keep up the good work. I am pleased with it so far....

Bravo to the author of EUAE, Hi-Torro interface, the AmigaInABox developer and not forgetting the SDL library creators. If we didn't have these people, you would be forced to use Windows to emulate an Amiga. ;/

I forgot to mention the excellent work undertaken by Cloanto, they have EUAE on a bootable CD using a custom boot knoppix unix distro for PC's. So bravo to them too, long may they stay in business. When my platinum AF arrives I should be enjoying watching the DVD history videos as well.

Getting there. There will be screenshots to come.

[Macman]

RATS, I'm having trouble with my filespace to add screengrabs, is there another method? or can I mail them (3) to someone to post here? Sorry.

I have 3 interesting screengrabs of EUAE working on my iMac they are not big.

AIAB.PNG 640k Image of a slight problem I am having setting up picasso with AIAB, can anyone work out the problem?

Wizball.PNG EUAE 832k Wizball running on my Mac, the first game I got when I bought my Amiga  :-)

Wizball.PNG 68k window of it running at full speed.

the only thing you can't experience is the sound... can anyone lend a hand to get these pics on the forum?

Thanks.

[Macman]

I used to emulate a Mac on my Amiga, now I emulate an Amiga on my Mac

[Macman]

There are some screen grabs over in the images section of this site in Miscellaneous Amiga Images....

I'm having a spot of bother getting the latest AIAB running, does it look like I am missing a command in 'c' or a LIBS?

Everything looks ok. I can get around it, but for the sake of making the guide easier to follow it would be good if the install sequence didn't fail.

Cheers all.

[Macman]

I still feel like there is a long way to go for me to master both the Mac, and Amiga emulation.

Nostalgia :-) is cool, for those of us of a certain age, cough DPaint! awsome, in the days when EGA was good and VGA was just appearing, I remember making video work that few could work out how it was done, as that level of technology didn't exist on the PC

Wizball was the first ever thing I loaded onto my Amiga 500 when I bought it, so it had to be the first thing I tried on my Mac.

Being a top games machine I think is less important for a computer nowadays. You are absolutely right, but I'd say the struggle with gfx drivers, installing games, getting lazy programmers to make sure their software works in a limited account, and the cost of gfx card upgrades (PC) outweighs the fact that it is better to leave your computer doing computery things, and go buy an xbox, playstation2/3 or PSP for  your gaming fix.

I may be the only one that thinks this, but I prefer a computer with the best OS / software and technologies money can buy busily making a DVD for me, while I play Grand theft auto on my playstation 2 or PSP.

I don't think it matters as much anymore, or should matter?

Getting back on topic, oops. I recieved my copy of AF today That was quick. So I should be able to include AF installation instructions for using the ROMS and WB from it in a short guide to setting up EUAE.

I suppose as a short name EUAE covers it, as that describes the (E)nhanced version of open-UAE that has been compiled for all platforms, including Windows - although winuae is quite a way ahead.

So we should just call it EUAE.

[Macman]

Thank gawd for that! I've finally managed something useful, after several hours of struggling with Amiga forever, I have got a good working setup running in EUAE on my Mac.

Go check out the images part of this site, and you should see it (might have to wait a bit as I've only just uploaded it)

There was an error that I shall have to let Cloanto know about. This is the second stage of me getting together a guide to setting up EUAE, workbench environments, games, and customising settings for performance.

Is there anything you would particularly want me to cover in this guide? I need to get AmigaInABox working first, then there will be some time consuming testing and I'll write the guide and post it here. It would be excellent if you guys and gals could check it over, and give some suggestions.

Why am I doing all this?

1. I was really pleased, and pleasantly surprised to find such an active Amiga community after all that has happened in the world of Amigas.
2. I needed a guide myself to setting up emulators for the mac and couldn't find one.
3. I go way back both in work and play with the excellent Amiga.

Cheers everyone, I'm quite pleased with myself  :-)

[Macman]

Excellent, why didn't I think of that.

I will do that, nice to hear from you again oh guru

[Macman]

I have posted a request for help on the AIAB forum, but nobody has answered  :cry:

I know I can probably get around the problem by hacking away a bit, but I was hoping that it would be possible to run the startup-sequence as is, as this will allow other Mac users (or users of Lunix EUAE) to use the excellent AIAB.

I know the picasso side is working as it boots Amiga forever with RTG working nicely. Cloanto also had an error, but it wasn't with the script or install process. I will contact Cloanto about the error they have on their CD's.

I am a new returner to the Amiga scene, what is the latest version of Amiga OS that you can buy? 3.9...

Anyway, thanks for the help

[Macman]

After getting a reply from the Amiga Man himself, I have now got it working.

I was fixated, getting the "BleedingEdge" archive working. I admited defeat, and tried the 20050606.zip. That worked fine.

AIAB is several times slower than AF on EUAE, the speed issues could be with EUAE, the SDL library or my EUAE config. With the same config settings AF runs about 10 times faster than AIAB!

I have made two configs of AIAB to test with EUAE, one with all the latest bells and whistles, and one with older software which needs less resources.

EUAE seems generally slow on my G5 1.7Gig iMac. Its not the Mac's fault I am also running virtual PC 7, and can happily run Windows XP on my Mac at very good speed indeed, faster than some real PC's I know!

I have posted an image to 'Misc Amiga Images' of EUAE running Amiga in a box on my iMac G5

Now for lots of testing, unfortunately this might be a bit slow, as I have started a course at the Open University