A1200 good for re-entry?

[yester64]

Hi, i used to be an Amiga fanatic, but sold my Amiga stuff way back in 95. Now i am at the point, maybe its nostalgia (it mostly is), i want to buy my again an Amiga and do two things. Play games and run a private bbs system on it.
Used to run actually Cnet and AmiX. Well also way back.

Anyway, i was thinking just to buy off an older 1200 which had at least some newer chips than the 500 i had.
What i am mainly puzzled what the value of that machine is and what to expect. These newer amigas used to have newer boards, if i recall it right versus the A500 which was the old style of boarddesign. I soldered on mine.

Also on a different note. I checked two sides and both offer 'new' Amigas. One from Commodore and the other one i forgot already but it was a X1000.
The first look like Linux driven Computers.. mm..

Does anyone have any of them or perhaps the X1000? Haven't checked the forum so i will do that in case there is a review.

Thanks already.

[yester64]

Agreed...



Hmmm - here I cannot agree (supposing that you are referring to the AmigaOne X1000 with "X1000").

If there is something interesting about a piece of hardware then there is something interesting about it - no matter if it is a Commodore Amiga, CUSA Amiga, AT Amiga, Eyetech Amiga, ACube Amiga, A-Eon Amiga, Pegasos, Playstation or what do I know.

In case of CUSA products I have to agree, as I cannot see anything interesting there - others might see this different.

But in case of the A1 X1k I can see a lot of things that I'm interested in. Be it the dual cores, the 64 bit architecture or exploring the possibilities of XENA / XORRO...

Anyhow - I have registered my interest in an AmigaOne X1000 at x1000@leamancomputing.com ...

I think thats the X1000 i had seen. Personally i really hoped that it would be the new Amiga we were all waiting for.
And yes, the Cusa computers looks more or less like standard pc's with the name on. I don't think they run Amiga OS and rather Linux.

[yester64]

Welcome back!
I think for the things you listed an A 1200 - preferably with a 68030 accelerator card - is enough.

B.T.W. - with "AmiX" you mean the Amiga Unix - a full port of AT&T Unix System V Release 4 for the Amiga computer family?
Isn't an Amiga 3000 UX required for that?

No AmiX was an BBS program. It was really great. At the time i wasn't thinking about Unix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiexpress
I think i wrote the short wrong.

[yester64]

Hi mate!

The A1200 is definitly a very good choice. You should be able to get a really nice "entry" set for about 300€ (~400$ i'd assume), with an A1200 in near-mint condition, a 68030 acceleration board and 4MB extra RAM, as well as some (original) AGA/ECS games and a PCMCIA kit for file transfer. Oh, and a CF-Card + Adapter for the IDE port; 4GB is plenty, tho i've been fooling around with 16GB disks lately ...

If you want to hook the whole thing up to a modern TFT/LED/Monitor instead of a TV or an original Amiga capable monitor, a Indivision Mk2 appears to be *the* thing - i yet have to acquire one of those, tho.

Right now there also is a chance to buy a original packed A1200 Magic Pack (still sealed) as Petro somehow akquired a LOT of those from some forgotten storage or something like this. He takes 150 Euros + 19% VAT + Shipping per piece, which i consider a very fair price for original sealed A1200 magic packs O.o

So, i'd say get started with a magic pack and buy the other stuff and put it in (accelerator, CF-Disk, PCMCIA Disk Transfer kit); Or get one of the complete packs from ebay that usually come with everthing.

When you want to expand, you can always buy a better acceleration card that supports a lot more RAM, an indivision MK2, an IDEFix and a CDROM Drive, ...

Good luck,
- G


@Itix:
Working A1200's in good condition with the necessary stuff like mouse, PSU, ... for under 50 €/$? Guess there is a huge price difference between where you live and middle europe Granted, you can have a lucky strike on some flea-market sites (or real flea markets) because some people dont know what stuff is worth, tho.

That was another question that came up. Where to buy. I checked Ebay and it looks pretty empty. I remember there was a store in the UK that sold Amigas. Maybe thats what you meant.
Btw. did the A1200 did not had the flickerfixer build in? I remember on my A500 i had to buy a flixerfixer so i would be able to hook it up to a monitor. What joy that was.
I hold the A500 dear, but i think to have a more broad library choice the A1200 should be better. It was the last technological leap from C= after all.

[yester64]

I have seen that there will be a release of the MK board from Individual Computers available soon. Its about 120 pounds.
http://www.jschoenfeld.com/news/news130_e.htm
I think i will order that as well with the machine. The only thing i can not find is a processor board. But thats not the important right now.

One other thing i am interested in is how i can hook up the amiga to telnet, like for a bbs system.
And of course, where to get some of the game treasures. Ebay seems not a great source, at least i don't see titles i am looking for.

[yester64]

For accelerators, I'd post a want thread on AmiBay and maybe the Vintage Computer Forum. On eBay they're almost always twice the price or more that you'd find them from a forum member.

Good tip. I wasn't aware of that.
Sadly, Amigakit has nothing in stock. I wrote them an email. Oh and no, i am from the US. Since i don't connect it to a TV it shouldn't matter what tv norm it has, or does it?

[yester64]

What ever you do, don't settle for WinUAE. It's spiritually damaging.

For the note, I love my 1200's!

Well, i think an Emulator can be ok if you don't want to deal with the actual hardware or you can not buy it.
I never liked all these emulators. As a matter of fact, i tried a little while ago to play wasteland on Vice and its ok but i guarantee that it is much more fun to play it on a C64.

[yester64]

@yester64

What if you didn't know it was emulation?  The only complaints I've see about UAE is that people see the equipment it's hosted on and it spoils the illusion of the past.  Maybe putting the monitor in a box that looks like an old style tube TV would help.  Or perhaps just a smaller monitor that's in the old SD dimensions, to cut down on the jaggies,...

Of course its nostalgia. On the other hand, original equipment gives you the feel of how it was done.
I bought UAE a long time ago and yes, it does work too. But its just different.

[yester64]

Thanks to everyone who replied to my question. I have to say its a very vibrant community and i am happy to be part of it.

Now i just have to find a nice a1200 and then i will rock too.