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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« on: December 12, 2005, 06:51:01 PM »
That would be me. I was a little leery of posting in this thread because of all the arguing.  :-D

As to my motivation - well, I like PPC systems and the GC is really cheap these days. I was thinking of getting one anyway for a few games it has. Killing two birds with one stone and all...  :lol:

In fact, the way I found this thread was looking around for an SD Gecko for the GC since my only other choice was a similar device from Lik-Sang for $30 + S&H. I plan to keep folks here and at the AROS forum abreast of how it goes, so there will be plenty of time for more arguing the pros and cons of Amiga-like OSes on the GC.  ;-)
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2005, 09:32:28 PM »
Yes, you can occasionally get older iMacs off eBay for under $200. I've seen the original 233MHz iMac for as low as $75. That is certainly the way to go if you just want a plain PPC system. I've got linux and AROS running on my iMac DV+, and do plan to work on native AROS for the iMac.

But $150 for a 486MHz G3 with 24M of fast SRAM is still very cheap. It's also easier to find a GC system for that price than an iMac for less than $200. Most used iMacs go for $300 to $400 depending on the amount of memory and size of the harddrive. It's rare to see better than the original 233MHz iMac with 32M of 66MHz SDRAM for less than $200.

If you are looking to run linux or OSX, go with the best iMac you can find on eBay. If you are looking to play games, go with the GC. It's just a matter of how you intend to use the system beyond any Amiga-ish usage. I've already got an iMac and was more interested in something that also played games. The A500 and A1200 were game machines that also ran AmigaOS programs. Using a GC to run AROS would continue that tradition nicely. While there are Mac games you could use on an iMac, there aren't nearly as many, nor are they as good as the games on the GC (with a few exceptions).
 

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Re: potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2005, 06:59:02 PM »
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Powermac G3s go for less than $100 on eBay. No need to look at an iMac. The Powermac has more expansion possibilities and will likely cost less to ship. No need to wait around either, there are plenty that are under $100 in auctions that are about to end within hours. Old iMacs might be hard to find on the cheap but old Powermacs are not.


Ah, right. Sorry, I was stuck in iMac mode. :-D  Yes, the PowerMacs were a nice line and are pretty cheap. Those cases are also pretty classy. Apple always made nice looking stuff at least. I wasn't thinking about them because you can't exactly fit the motherboard into an A1200 shell... which was what I've been looking to do - stick SOMETHING in an A1200 shell that gave me an "updated" A1200. That's where the suggestion to use an iBook came from, to which I mentioned that would be nice, but was too expensive which led to all these posts on which Macs sell cheap on eBay. :lol:

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As for the game machine part, certainly the Gamecube is a better games machine than the Mac, but I would argue that the Amiga was more readily equiped as a computer for it's time than the Gamecube. Not that I'm trying to dissuade you from doing the port. I like to see funky operating systems running on funky game consoles myself.


Yes, consoles usually require more to make them into general purpose computers. For example, I had to get the broadband adapter and a keyboard adapter to go with the GC. That adds to the cost. I think there are two ideas behind putting regular OSes on consoles: 1) as you said, seeing a funky OS on a funky console interests quite a few people; and 2) having an OS on the console makes it easier to do programs for the console. For example, look at what you can run on the PS2 in linux compared to what straight homebrew on the PS2 offers.

Mind you, I feel programming straight on the console is more fun, but a little beyond many folks. It's like comparing demo programmers who took over the Amiga to folks who wrote programs which didn't take over the Amiga. Putting some kind of Amiga-like OS on the GC would certainly make it easier to do certain games, like DOOM, Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Descent, Abuse, etc... open source games which have already been ported to the Amiga. While there is a working linux for GC, AmigaOS is quite a bit more lean, so certain programs have the possiblity of running better.
 

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2005, 09:45:14 PM »
It COULD be a cable problem. I have two composite cables for my PS2. One of them gives a clean signal, but the other gives a rather strangely artifacted display.
 

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2006, 03:28:25 AM »
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Gee, I'd hate to get back on topic and all but...

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/688/688570p1.html

I'm thinking that mystery connector is for optical digital audio.  I use that on my HD receiver and I believe the connecter has that same exact shape...looks like those Dolby 7.1 rumors are atleast a possibility... Also, it would be sweet if the component video cable I currently own for the GC would plug right in to Revolution.  Doesn't sound so strange when you realize their composite a/v cable has been the same since the SNES...


My PS2 has TOSLINK optical digital audio out. TOSLINK is the standard for optical digital audio, and that is definitely NOT a TOSLINK connector. It's either a custom cable, or not optical digital audio.