OS4 and DKB3128

[Kin-Hell]

@ Dragster

Tbh, OS4.0 Classic = Bull Sh*t :pissed:

Same bollocks with my Z3 Fastlane.

Bloody disgracefull all round.  :madashell:

Another cold one will help quell the pain & then after a couple of Jack Daniels on top, who gives a flying F`k anyways......   :-D

[Kin-Hell]

B00tDisk wrote:

Kin-Hell wrote:
@ Dragster

Tbh, OS4.0 Classic = Bull Sh*t :pissed:

Same bollocks with my Z3 Fastlane.

Bloody disgracefull all round.  

Why?  Why do you think Hyperion should've created a hacky mess of an operating system just so they could cover every weird setup out there?  

This isn`t a rant & I will be as consise as I can, if only to save my own heart from Bleeding about it!

Back when the CSPPC cards were released, the idea was to be running the Big C='s hardware via the Motorola series of CPU`s, but they were supposed to be backed up by the Horse Power of the PPC to render/compute sh1t faster than anything on the planet back then!

OS4 for the hard Amiga Nuts amongst us was something that ran on the 060 & got boosted by the PPC running in the background & OS3.9 kinda tripped it all that way with WARP etc!

The Demise of Commodore was probably at the hands of Bill Gates & his cronies & meantime while the slimy C= Spick- Boss got paid to totally disapear off the face of the planet whilst Commodore dissapeared up it`s own Ass, folk like us of the eighties were pretty pi$$ed seeing a truly wonderful, pre-emptive multi-tasking operating system & chipset get swallowed to this point in time with Vista.
Amigas brought Multi-Media to the Desk Top long before Pee Cee's were capable after C= went under. Unless you had tens of thousands of ur local Dosh that is!
AAA Chipset consequently never arrived, which was naturally going to be the traditional OS4 from C= for their new Gen Chipset. An awful lot of bloody good stuff got quashed while a lot of total bollocks thrived.

....Sounding Familiar!???

Meantime, OS4 got bashed from pillar to post & appeared on some pretty crap hardware to where it is now.
Unfortunately, OS4.0 Classic users end up with iBrowse 2.4 on OS4.0 running slower than a snail on Evo-Stick! The 060 running iBrowse 2.4 is like a bolt of lightning by comparison.
Forgetting the performance side of it all, the Amiga was the Fastest Emulator in its time & gave the most expensive Pee Cees money could buy, a bloody good run for their money.
MAC's were slower than an Amiga Emulating it ffs! :lol:

Meantime, OS4.0 Classic uses a different Memory accessing method than Commodores original OS. Consequently, the hardware expansions using the traditional Memory accessing wont work anymore.
SCSI of the A3D/T & A4KT are as much use as a chocolate fireguard & because they need the traditional Amigas Memory access for DMA, it`s just totally F`kd.

So yeah, thats why OS4 for the classic user is a total piece of sh1t & I could list a whole pile more bollocks, but my heart is already bleeding like a pig.......

Thats why! :rtfm:

I wanted you to understand the whole condensed story of why its crap. A real nutshell quote would be;

It`s a "Port-Over"

Nuff said!  :boohoo:

[Kin-Hell]

B00tDisk wrote:
No doubt, but the wailing about them not reaching across the creaking, groaning bridge of multiple hardware types lashed together in a myriad of funky and often incompatible ways is a bit much.

So you were never a traditional Amiga fan then!? The Amiga was all about "Fun Computing". We had a GUI that packed more power than any other platform of its time. Librarys, Devices, Handlers etc that other hardware/software could share. These were good days which OS4 does not encompass in the same manner.
Opinions are personal & we are all entitled to our own. If you can`t see the humour in what I wrote, I`ll stay a kid a while longer & might just enjoy life that little bit more.
Fun computing on the Amiga was really what it was all about & I feel OS4 does not encompass this same tradition. Just my opinion though! ;-)

@ alexh

It`s clever what Hyperion have done with the OS, so please don`t take me entirely the wrong way about this. It`s clever in so far as the way OS4 was originally developed for other hardware in the first place & not Commodores Chipset. At least OS3.9 still ran on the 060 with WARP etc using the PPC where it could. Mainly games of course. I really wanted to see some FAST render times in Imagine, Real 3D etc.
OS4's direction RE the hardware it ran on, probably fuelled their laziness & economics. Amigas were all about SCSI & slower devices on the SCSI III chain will be detremental to the SCSI III performance.
Such a shame. :-(

[Kin-Hell]

alexh wrote:
I am almost sure they never intended to release OS4 classic but with the death of Amiga-One they had to re-think. There was probably a deadline and they just had to go with what they had.

Yeah m8, but it just about F`kd the classic Amiga....& they wouldn`t be where they are now if it wasn`t for us Old School fux0rz!

Chicken egg thing, but It`s really nice to see there are some of us still out here. Bring it on lads....Dragster won`t mid us pimping his thread....He knows there are loads of Cold ones in the Fridge here!  :-D

[Kin-Hell]

@ alexh

No IDE here m8y. IDE has a MUCH bigger CPU hit on the Amiga than SCSI.  ;-)