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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Issues with startup
« on: December 07, 2014, 08:56:32 PM »
so I can't seem to get the CF card with OS 3.1 to boot. It gets to the workbench screen and freezes before loading any icons and the mouse won't move. (The keyboard caps lock flashes)
If I use the trueIDE interface nothing happens at all and I get the install floppy disc screen.

I originally went this option because I thought my hard drive failed but after putting it back in and booting off a workbench floppy I do get all the contents on the hard drive showing up in workbench. Could this mean that just the system folder is damaged so how on that drive? I used SSF as the file system if that helps?
What if any possible things can I do to get this going again without a full format and re install?
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2014, 09:27:40 PM »
Ok, sorry. Let's first work on reviving the original Hard drive if possible.

I ran HD toolbox and did a "verify data on drive" and it came back with no reported errors.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 02:48:03 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;779253
I'm confused by this thread, as well. Would you like to go back to using your original hard drive? What happened that you were no longer able to boot from it? Did you receive any error messages? Most likely it's just something in your Startup-Sequence or WBStartup directory that was causing it to not boot.  Either a bad command, incompatible program, or something along those lines.

At this point I just want something to work properly. I agree that something is amiss in the startup sequence but I cant see anything out of the ordinary. I even disabled the user startup and that did not change. When I start to computer it access the drive an the screen stays blank. If I remove the drive I get the "insert workbench disc screen". If I use my instal discs and have the drive hooked up it loads into workbench properly and shows all my files and programs as they should be but of course its not using the startup off the hard drive rather the floppy.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 02:51:52 PM »
Quote from: paul1981;779262
Hello there.

What is the nature of the problem?
How large is the hard drive?
What are the sizes of the partitions upon it?

Its not a huge drive, I believe its about 5gb but The OS is installed on the first 2GB partition I have made on it.
It was running fine before I let the computer sit for a few months without use.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2014, 04:48:54 PM »
Ok thanks, I will give it a try tonight when I get home from work :)
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2014, 09:31:01 PM »
Ok so I did as you suggested and it freezes when it says "C:SetPatch QUIET"
So right at the start it seems
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2014, 09:51:24 PM »
Success!
That worked. It booted up a bit slower than normal but it's up and running
So now the question, what does the SetPatch quiet mean?
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2014, 10:14:19 PM »
How do I run SetPatch ? I'm in the shell window now
Sorry if I'm not up to speed on this as it's been years since I did any stuff in this area of the Amiga
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2014, 11:00:24 PM »
This is what I see when running SetPatch
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/3551/1_image.jpg
It seems to freeze after that.

It's Version 44.16

This is the first page of the Startup sequence if that helps at all
Note that I still have SetPatch bypassed
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/3551/2_image.jpg
« Last Edit: December 08, 2014, 11:17:37 PM by tonyvdb »
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2014, 11:29:25 PM »
PM sent.

Odd, there already is an SetPatch-old file?
Things that make you go Hmmmmm
« Last Edit: December 08, 2014, 11:32:58 PM by tonyvdb »
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2014, 12:12:21 AM »
Well, that's a no go for either file.
.39 gave me a recoverable failure but then did not go farther and .38 does the same thing as before, just a black screen
Thanks for trying anyhow
Clearly it is the SetPatch file that's the issue. Not sure what else to try?
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 12:15:48 AM by tonyvdb »
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2014, 12:42:14 AM »
Yup, it's a 4000d
I'll give that a try I guess. Worst case I try doing a full reinstall on a new hard drive and transfer over the files after.
Thanks so much for trying
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2014, 01:11:13 AM »
The moment I hit enter after typing SetPatch it freezes
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2014, 02:29:59 PM »
SetPatch-0ld file still fails the same way.
I removed the battery years ago and replaced it with a rechargeable coin battery.

Tonight I will try running SetPatch with Nocash and the others you mention and see what happens.

This coming weekend I will probably take all the Video Toaster stuff out as well as the GVP SCSI card I have and see if that changes anything

Also remember Im still trying to get OS3.1 working. I have not ventured into a fresh instal of 3.9
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: Issues with startup
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2014, 06:54:51 PM »
I have 3.1 roms installed
Its an 040 board and given it boots up into windows if I disable setpatch that says the 040 is working right?

Im at work at the moment so wont be able to test any suggestions till later but keep them coming. Im learning lots as we go.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.