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Offline tonyvdb

I had a Toaster 4000 running in a A3000T before I upgraded to my current system and it fit and worked just fine. As you mentioned the AGA colour transitions will not work but almost everything else will.
I currently am running OS3.5 with my Toaster Flyer and have not encountered any troubles with it as of yet. The only issue I have found is that the Flyer SCSI drives reset there heads once every 5 seconds for some reason but by putting the Flyer drive dos driver icons into the startup directory this has fixed that issue. (this may be because I am using a Cyberstorm PPC with the Amiga OS on the SCSI of the CSPPC)
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdb

Re: Will a Toaster 4000 board fit and work well in an Amiga 3000?
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2006, 05:46:13 PM »
Just for your info, You wont be able to store or capture video on the Amiga's hard drive, you must have a Flyer ad on card to  do that. You will also need at least one channel of Time Base Correction (TBC) in order to input video through the Toaster input #1. Two TBC's are needed to do live AB roll editing switching between more than one input. (the Toaster 4000 keeps the video signal anologe where the PC/Mac convert it to digital or keep it digital). The Flyer also converts the video to digital and gives you excellent quality compared to most PC based systems because there is no artifacts that are usualy seen with MPEG compression.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.
 

Offline tonyvdb

Re: Will a Toaster 4000 board fit and work well in an Amiga 3000?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2006, 05:44:56 PM »
In your situation yes using the PC/Mac to do the editing is good enough but I will say that the Toaster with a Flyer dose a far better job then the PC/mac based systems. Unless you have a $10,000 editing hardware like the New Newtek VT4 for the PC your not going to get the quality that the Toaster offers. The Transitions alone are far smoother and higher quality.
The only drawback is that the Toaster was out before Firewire and other digital means of video transfer was available but most Television studios still use the anologe video out to move some video over to editing VTR's and for DVD or Brodcast of news clips this is more then sufficient as the Toaster is D2 quality.

Just for clarification the Toaster must have TBC's in order to switch between video inputs. the only way around that is to use the Flyer and record the video to the Flyers Hard drives and the video is then digital.
Anologe video needs TBC because the video is not in sync with the other inputs. Video that is not in sync when doing a crossfade or other transition will jump all over the place and will not be usable. Its like taking two gears that are not moving at the same speed and putting them together thaw will grind and make lots of noise. A TBC strips the original signal and rebuilds it so that both are drawing the lines from top to bottom at the same speed and time. The TBC need to talk to each other thus need to be of the same make and will have a cable that connects them together.
TBC's on ebay that work in the Amiga usually go for about $100 each. The Kitchen Sync is a great choice because it has two TBC's on one card (I have two of them) another is the Personal TBC II, III or IV (you would need two of them)
Digital video is not "drawn" like anologe so TBC's are not necessary. Once on a hard drive it is in the Digital realm so at that point you don't need them.
Amiga 2000HD Indivision ECS
Amiga 4000D towerised OS 3.1 and 3.9 on CF cards
Indivision AGA, Mediator 4000
Video Toaster 4000 Flyer v4.3 Millenium.
202gig of video drive space & 5gig audio.