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arkanoid wrote:
oh ho, speak of the devil. I have just recieved an email from PayPal who have been monitoring (snooping) on my PayPal account transactions:

"We are sending you this notice because you have received more than 650.00 GBP in total payments to your PayPal account.

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Apparently the average Joe (commoners, to our ruling Elite) is no longer allowed to sell their own property on eBay to make a little extra cash, without the government and tech-industry demanding we fill out a form explaining ourselves and justifying such "huge" sums (725.32 GBP in total) which they would rather we didn't have.

I think you have misunderstood the situation.

Firstly, there is no requirement to fill in any form or justify anything in this situation. They are simply informing you that they are checking the details of the transaction. What this actually involves is them making sure that the funds have gone to a verified account, and checking for any odd trends like regular payments of a similar amount going to lots of different accounts. This is done automatically with no human intervention unless something suspicious is flagged up. When this happened to me, I received an email with 24 hours stating that the checks were completed, with no requirement for me to do (or justify) anything.

Secondly, what on earth makes you think they "the government and tech-industry" would rather you didn't have the money you made from selling your property? Do you really think that's how the government and business owners want things to be, with the "average Joe" having no money? Where would the revenue which pays the wages of these organisations come from in this case? Do you know how capitalism works?

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@arkanoid
Ok, I did not have a full picture of what you were asked to do by PayPal and I made an assumption that it was the same as what I was required to do. That was wrong. Given that you were asked quite specific questions about the transaction, I can understand that you are concerned. However, I am struggling to think what motive you think Brussels has other than to protect people from fraud. Did they tell you you couldn't have your money, or did they carry out the checks then leave it in your account?

Regarding the capitalism stuff, your condescending lesson is not required. I am fully aware of how this model can be used to exert control over the masses. However, it's not the 1900s any more. Services aren't providing merely the necessities. You will of course be aware that whole industries focus on providing luxury goods and services that people don't actually need. If the bourgeoisie were really still trying to suppress the proles by withholding all of the capital, then I hardly think there would be a place in the market for such goods and services. Luxury foods, designer clothes, prestige cars and expensive furniture for a start would all be gone.

You should know that I am not as naïve as you think I am. My eyes are wide open to the way the world is changing and the potential dangers. But the way the market is organised suggests to me that we are *not* (yet) living in some Victorian era of ruling and working classes. And I don't think PayPal checking that you and others are not being defrauded is evidence that we are moving towards that. If anything, they seem to be *proteecting* your property (i.e. your money). When they start withholding funds, then I will worry.

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moto