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Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« on: October 22, 2008, 05:09:36 PM »
A1200 in Power Tower
BPPC (unknown spec)
IDE CD-ROM on first channel of IDE adapter
No HDD currently attached


When I boot the above machine from the OS4 floppy it does the following:

1. Accesses the floppy disk for a while then reboots
2. Accesses the floppy disk for a while then accesses the CD-ROM for a while, then reboots
3.  Screen turns red, then blue, then reboots

These steps repeat over and over again.

I thought it might be something to do with the MapROM setting, since red screen usually means ROM issues, but MapROM is disabled. Memory is set to 70ns as per the OS4 manual.

Any ideas what's going on? Could the PPC be dead? Is there a way of testing it without finding a hard drive, installing an OS, and installing WarpOS? (whatever that is - I've never used a PPC on an Amiga before)

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2008, 05:41:04 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion. I don't have a cable suitable for connecting a CD-ROM to the 44 pin IDE interface. Is it possible to copy the contents of the OS4 CD to a hard drive with the same volume name as the CD and get the OS4 installer to boot from that?

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2008, 06:05:01 PM »
Really? In the manual it says that it should recognise that it's booting OS4 and hand over to the CD. Also, if I take the disk out, will it be able to boot from the CD?

Anyway, I'll try it. Just to make sure I understand what you are suggesting:

1. Boot from floppy. Let it reboot
2. Boot from floppy. Let it reboot then immediately take out the floppy
3. Boot from CD

Right?

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2008, 09:27:52 PM »
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TiredOLife wrote:
If you have a partition with 3.9 you can install fom there.

I don't have any OS installed on this machine ATM.

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People have also just copied the cd to the hard drive, and made the neccessary changes to the kicklayout.

I was thinking of just creating a partition, giving it the same volume name as the OS4 CD, and dumping all the files there. Would that work?

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 12:42:35 PM »
*bump*

Just hoping for confirmation that an FFS partition labelled "AmigaOS 4.0 Install CD" with the contents of the CD copied to its root will function as an installation source for OS4. If so, would this boot without needing the floppy?

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 05:11:17 PM »
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A4000_Mad wrote:
I've just booted into the A4000/PPC using OS4 boot floppy disk only and got the report "Please insert volume AmigaOS4.0 install CD in any drive".

Yes, that's what I get if I don't put the CD in. With the CD there, it doesn't happen and there is activity from the CD drive.

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(I didn't see any flashing colours)

The flashing colours appear after it has accessed the CD.

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A4000_Mad wrote:
IIRC correctly the fact that you are seeing the flashing coulours is a good indication that the OS4 CD is being found ok.

I'm not so sure. It's not flashing colours like the softkick of a ROM image. It's static, coloured screens which stay for a second, then either change to the next colour or go black.

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If you remove the OS4 CD and just boot from the OS4 boot floppy, do you see "Please insert volume AmigaOS4.0 install CD in any drive"??

Yes.

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(It's rather fitting that my 1000th post should be for you mate ;-) :pint:)

Indeed it is - thanks!
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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 05:25:14 PM »
I think I might have made some progress. I copied the contents of the OS4 CD on to an FFS formatted hard disk, which I then connected directly to the A1200's IDE interface. I booted from the floppy and this is what happens:

1. Accesses the floppy disk for a while then reboots
2. Accesses the floppy disk for a while then accesses the hard drive for a while, then reboots
3. Screen turns red, then blue, then purple, then reboots
4. Lots of hard disk activity (seems to be booting) then 15KHz screen turns white. No input on the VGA monitor connected to the BVPPC

The amount of disk activity in stage 4 suggests to me that it's booting. I'm hoping that means the PPC works. But why the white screen on the 15KHz output? Is that normal once OS4 has finished booting? Is it possible that it has booted but the BVision either doesn't work, or the resolution is too high for the monitor?

Soooo, I suppose what I'm really asking here (long story short...) is this: is it normal for the 15KHz output to go to a blank screen when OS4 has finished booting if you have a BVision installed?

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40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 06:01:52 PM »
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"Soooo, I suppose what I'm really asking here (long story short...) is this: is it normal for the 15KHz output to go to a blank screen when OS4 has finished booting if you have a BVision installed?"

yep

Ahh, brilliant! So it looks like the BPPC is working!
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edit- as blank i mean white.

Oops, yes I meant to say white :-)

If I remove the BVision, will OS4 display on an AGA screenmode?

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50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2008, 06:09:53 PM »
So did the installer actually display under AGA? If so I'll whip out the BVision and try to boot OS4.

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2008, 07:17:11 PM »
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I'm pretty sure that as an experiment I removed my GFX card and the installer displayed AGA no problem

Great, I'll give it a try then.

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IIRC the installer looks for supported GFX cards and displays in 800 x 600 for you :-)

Hmm, 800x600 should display on the VGA monitor I'm using. I hope the CVPPC isn't dead :-(

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60  NA-NA-NAAAA
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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2008, 07:39:50 PM »
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i'm confused now! we are still speaking about an A1200?

Sorry, typo. It's an A1200 with a BPPC and a BVision.

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Framiga wrote:
Have you installed the FFS dundled with the OS4 CD (68K) onto the RDB with dostype DOS/7 (support for longfilenames)? or better SFS?

No. I'm not trying to install the OS yet. I just want to get to the installer for now, so I dumped the contents of the CD on to an FFS partition so I don't have to boot from the CD (because I have been told above that the 4-way IDE interface might be causing the booting problems and I have no way of connecting a 40-way device (i.e. the CD-ROM) directly to the Amiga)

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2008, 07:45:02 PM »
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yes ok but the OS4 partition, have some very long filenames that if you used an old FFS, will be truncated.

Fonts directory, for example


Even on the CD?

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 07:53:36 PM »
Hmm, ok. I wonder whether that would stop it booting? Or let it get a certain way in to booting and then stop but not give an error saying that it can't find a file?

Will the version of FFS provided with OS4 work under OS3.1? If so, where do I find it on the CD to install it on the drive under UAE before copying over the contents of the CD?

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60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2008, 08:01:25 PM »
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is in OS4CD:System/L/ (v51.10)

but why dont setup a 500MB 68k SFS partition instead? dump all the CD content and then do what you need to do

Good idea. I'll try that.

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(not sure how, anyway)

How to do what?

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Re: Red then blue screen when booting OS4 Classic from CD
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2008, 08:07:14 PM »
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installing from the HD mirrored CD.

You have to tweak a lot.

Really? It seemed to find the files on the HDD without any changes (the partition was called "AmigaOS 4.0 Install CD").

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Good luck :-)

Thanks :-)

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